How much protein for my bulking diet?

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  1. dexterium

    dexterium New Member

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    The rule that goes 1.5 x your body weight (140 x 1.5) = 210 g of protein = 2800 cals per day. I don't think that is good enough.

    I want to go from 140 lbs to 180 lbs as fast as possible without hurting myself. I will be basing my meal plan on a 30% cals protein/50% carbs/20 % fat.

    How many grams of protein can I eat each day to get from 140 lbs to 180 lbs as fast as possible without hurting my liver/body?

    Thanks.
     
  2. Mike4831

    Mike4831 “Dream as if you’ll live forever, live as if you’l

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    If you want to gain 40lbs, you are going to need to load up on as many calories as possible. So that should be an adequate amount of protein. But you need to be eating somewhere in the area of like 7 or 8k calories a day.
     
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    You think too much.

     
  4. dexterium

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    Thinking is important. And by the way, 30% of calories of 7000 calories is 525 grams. That would kill me lol.
     
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    No

    Just Eat everything you can

    Don't worry about all those stupid percentages.
     
  6. dexterium

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    One thing that I have noticed by a lot of body builders here is that they tend to like to dirty bulk a bit too much. I can understand the night out where you chow down everything in pizza hut but overall I think that some guys are "building skyscrapers out of rubbish". I mean honestly, there is a science to anabolism and percentages to matter when you want to have optimal growth, especially for us "regular builders" who don't have the genetics of Lee Priest nor the money to buy steroids. Not that I would take them anyway as that would take the fun out of body building in itself.
     
  7. Filmboy44

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    I'd recommend that you take in as much as possible in the course of about 8-10 meals a day. If you're lookig to go up 40lbs as fast as possible then you need to eat.

    and dexterium is right, stop consuming all the cals youc an get...shit if that were the case I'd run to BK and eat 5000 cals in 1 sitting and be fine. Be smart about what you take in.
     
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    People here try and eat the basic good foods but to bulk it is a lot easier to just take in 5000 cals from BK along with all the other good foods.

    It sounds like dexterium is a BB so I can understand his wanting to keep it fairly clean and regimented but I just eat whatever the hell I want and it seems to be doing fine. I do have a gut now though. :o
     
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    are you saying you intend to take in 2800 calories per day or are you saying you think 210g of protein is 2800 cals?
     
  10. SteveO

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    it looks like hes implying 210g of protein = 2800 calories :rofl:

    just eat lots of it. Don't worry about numbers. To make a diet do this:

    plug in foods that you like into 8-9 meals a day, get a good balance of carbs fats and protein and worry about the numbers afterwards because you control the quanities going in and out
     
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    You didn't read all of my initial post. I said that this would be a result of a 30% protein, 50% carb, 20% fat meal plan. 1.5 x 140 = 210 g of protein. 210 * 4 = 840 calories from protein. 840 cals divided by 30% = 2800 overall calories.

    And by the way, to the person that said that I need to eat because I am only 130 lbs also didn't see that I said my body weight is 140 lbs.
     
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    You need to be a little more careful with your equal signs. If you considered 210g of protein 2800 cals you would be assuming you'd take in a whole shitload of calories and then we would have another person claiming to eat 15 thousand calories a day. No flames intended.
     
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    So does anyone know how much protein a 140 lb person can take in without damaging their liver?
     
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    more than you can eat
     
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    I have a question for you. It seems like all you do is research. Have you even started working out and eating more?
     
  16. dexterium

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    I have not began anything yet. Besides, my stuff from bodybuilding.com hasn't arrived yet... whey and stufff... Trust me edmang, my nutrition was so screwed up that I needed this research.
     
  17. SteveO

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    eat until your skin turns yellow
     
  18. shastaisforwinners

    shastaisforwinners OT Supporter

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    too much bodybuilding.com. seriously.

    % ratios are fucking retarded. 1g -1.5g/lb of protein is plenty. If you don't belive that, find me a study that says otherwise.

    so say something like this (it's been beaten to death on here already):
    1.5g/lb of protein
    25% of more calories from fat
    carbs to fill up the rest

    if you don't like that, eat more fat/protein and less carbs. The point is that more protein at the same calorie level isn't going to magically build more muscle. Your body will simply convert it to fuel and/or fat. Your kidneys are NOT going to be hurt by eating excess protien, it's been shown time and time again. Seriously, at 140lbs, you don't need to be micromanaging your diet, especially if you want to go up in weight as quickly as possible. Make sure you get enough protien, get your EFA's, and just eat a fucking ton.
     
  19. forum95

    forum95 Come see bout us OT Supporter

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    fucking :werd: I was reading to much BB.com, and I was clean bulking, trying to count my carbs and shit and was getting no where :ugh: just fucking eat
     
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    I think it was Christophers who said the more calories you have in your diet, the less important a really large amount of protein is.
     
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