How much does alcohol effect gains?

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  1. TFunkadelic

    TFunkadelic One Nation Under A Groove

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    Would having a beer in the evening after a workout (4-5 hours after) significantly damage weight training and cardio gains?
     
  2. energie

    energie I like to place an order.. the name? Situation the

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    alot of the brolies here drink (binge though) and unless your competing on stage or have other health reasons a couple drinks here and there wont hurt
     
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    One beer - no.

    Many beers - yes.
     
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    why not drink something better than queer ass beer? with its empty calories

    red wine .. good for dissolving those crappy satured fats
    vodka + diet cola = low low calories and still a good buzz
    and if you want to be ritsy... expresso martini (liquid egg white or skim cream milk, frangelico, 1 shot expresso)
     
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    If you're drinking everyday, yes.
     
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    somewhere i read its like taking one day of working out away if you get drunk.

    also, lets not forget the 3am runs to taco bell or other fast food places.
     
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    nah.
     
  11. Uglybob69

    Uglybob69 I miss beer.

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    I just read a study where men who drank a lot actually had higher free testosterone :rofl:
     
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    The Great Deceiver 21st Century Schizoid Man

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    Drinking is good for you. Especially red wine with a meal. Good for the cardiovascular system, helps moderate the cholesterol level, antioxidants, feels good man, other benefits..etc
     
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    red wine FTW

    'queer ass beer'?

    :ugh:
     
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    wtf
     
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    it's empty calories, but also alcohol prevents your muscles from growing as effectively as well. the good thing about alcohol is that it is easy to essentially burn off while doing simple cardio.
     
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    In terms of calories, one beer isn't much. Accounting for it in your diet works fine. But there's some effects on metabolism that might be significant; there's posts about it somewhere here in F&N.
     
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    Dark Beer
     
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    Drank this Cream Stout at Beerworks and it was like coffee. :bowdown:
     
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    id wager because heavy drinkers are big manly men that have a lot higher t to begin with
     
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    post the link
     
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    another fyi: alcohol calories are 7 per gram as opposed to normal carbs of 4. Alcohol calories take precedence in being burned before fat calories, carbs, then protein.... and it does raise test temporarly but like all items that raise test your body compensates by rasing estorgen.
    Yet alcohol is good for you, helping to prevent oxidation of ldl cholesterol, in conclusion....

    drink in moderation.... drink to enjoy the taste..... dont drink to impress some frat guy who is going to work at walmart the rest of his life
     
  22. Uglybob69

    Uglybob69 I miss beer.

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    Controlled study on the combined effect of alcohol and tobacco smoking on testosterone in alcohol-dependent men.

    Walter M, Gerhard U, Gerlach M, Weijers HG, Boening J, Wiesbeck GA.
    Division of Substance Use Disorders, Psychiatric University Clinics, University of Basel, Basel, Switzerland. [email protected]
    AIMS: The present study examined the association between pre-treatment drinking and smoking parameters and plasma testosterone levels before and after alcohol withdrawal. METHODS: A total of 51 alcohol-dependent men and 43 age-matched healthy men were investigated. In alcoholics, free testosterone in plasma was measured on the day of admission, after detoxification and after 6 weeks of sobriety. RESULTS: While the testosterone level of alcoholic men did not differ from healthy controls at the onset of withdrawal, it was significantly higher for the alcoholics after 6 weeks of sobriety than for the healthy controls. Higher alcohol consumption and higher tobacco use before detoxification led to higher levels of testosterone concentration before and after withdrawal. CONCLUSIONS: The effect of alcohol and tobacco is cumulative, with higher levels of alcohol and tobacco consumption being associated with higher levels of testosterone before and after alcohol withdrawal.


    I found a different one too :mamoru:
     
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    evo, that guy in your av..whats his name?
     
  24. Uglybob69

    Uglybob69 I miss beer.

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    Association of cigarette smoking, alcohol consumption, and physical activity with sex steroid hormone levels in US men.

    Shiels MS, Rohrmann S, Menke A, Selvin E, Crespo CJ, Rifai N, Dobs A, Feinleib M, Guallar E, Platz EA.
    Department of Epidemiology, Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, 615 N. Wolfe Street, Baltimore, MD, 21205, USA.
    BACKGROUND: We evaluated the associations of smoking, alcohol consumption, and physical activity with sex steroid hormone concentrations among 1,275 men >/=20 years old who participated in the Third National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES III). METHODS: Serum concentrations of testosterone, estradiol, and sex hormone-binding globulin (SHBG) were measured. We compared geometric mean concentrations across levels of smoking, alcohol, and physical activity using multiple linear regression. RESULTS: Current smokers had higher total testosterone (5.42, 5.10, and 5.26 ng/ml in current, former, and never smokers), free testosterone (0.110, 0.102, and 0.104 ng/ml), total estradiol (40.0, 34.5, and 33.5 pg/ml), and free estradiol (1.05, 0.88, and 0.84 pg/ml) compared with former and never smokers (all p </= 0.05). Men who consumed >/=1 drink/day had lower SHBG than men who drank less frequently (31.5 vs. 34.8 nmol/l, p = 0.01); total (p-trend = 0.08) and free testosterone (p-trend = 0.06) increased with number of drinks per day. Physical activity was positively associated with total (p-trend = 0.01) and free testosterone (p-trend = 0.05). CONCLUSIONS: In this nationally representative sample of men, smoking, alcohol, and physical activity were associated with hormones and SHBG, thus these factors should be considered as possible confounders or upstream variables in studies of hormones and men's health, including prostate cancer.
     
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    Uglybob69 I miss beer.

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    STUDIES CAN BE USED TO PROVE ANYTHING
     
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