How much cholesterol is "too much"?

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  1. thebeave

    thebeave New Member

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    I know that dietary cholesterol doesn't have a large impact on blood cholesterol but I had blood work done 12 months ago and 2 weeks ago and my cholesterol had risen substantially, not what I was expecting when I went in the 2nd time (168mg/dL 12 months ago and 189 mg/dL 2 weeks ago).

    Since the first time I went in for bloodwork I started going to the gym again and resumed eating healthy. They did a physical at the same time and 12 months ago I weighed 215, now I weigh just over 250, I have gained a lot.

    I just checked my fitday report for my averages to see how high cholesterol was and it was a lot higher than I expected. I typically eat 2-3 whole eggs a day (~200mg each) and a fair amount of chicken (~120mg each) but this seems realllly high.

    Here's a screenshot of the fitday report for averages (not many food labels show potassium or the mono/poly splits for fat so those are assuredly higher than this label dictates):

    edit: food list in post 19


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    jesus christ you AVERAGE 4100cals a day?
     
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    You gained 35 lbs and were surprised that your cholesterol went up?
     
  4. thebeave

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    Yeah, we've been over this, 6'5" ~250 and trying to gain :o
     
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    They offered to do a lipid panel to see what portion was HDL and what was LDL, they were also very sure that 189mg/dL was fine. My mom (who is an absolute health nut) said hers was 130mg/dL and that 189 sounded high.
     
  6. thebeave

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    I can post pictures of what I usually eat but every time I have in the past my diet is F&N approved... I don't really eat any crap foods. The worst "crap food" that I eat is whole grain bread or a little cheese on my eggs. Beyond that it's a lot of whole foods.
     
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    Oh. Thats right. I don't recognize people without AVs. :o
     
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    yea holy shit saturated fats.
     
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    It's really not that high. And shouldnt be a problem if it's coming from whole, unprocessed sources (eggs, steak, etc) which I suspect is the case.



    Really, that total cholesterol number is useless without knowing the HDL/LDL breakdown.
     
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    Yeah get a blood work done for peace of mind.
     
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    Formz Hipster Santa OT Supporter

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    My guess though is that with saturated fats that high and sodium levels that high the source is from a lot of processed microwaved prepared foods. I could be wrong though. :dunno:
     
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    Keep in mind you are looking at a 4k cal diet too....
     
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    Yea I guess. Its really difficult to get a sense of this shit without a food list. :o
     
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    Cholesterol is NOT a macronutrient. Macronutrients consist of protein, carbos, and fats. Cholesterol is not even a micronutrient. Your current cholesterol level is fine, anything under 200 mg/dL is a desirable level. You should be worried once your levels are over 240 mg/dL, only because levels that high are associated with heart disease. Over 240mg/dL is considered "too much."

    Cholesterol does not only come from your diet, but your body can also produce it from fatty acids.


    If you're worried about your current cholesterol levels, even though they are fine, you could try to eat more fiber at every meal. Cholesterol can't be broken down, but intstead cholesterol is used to make bile. This is one of the ways your body gets rid of cholesterol - you shit it out in the bile form. But your body is very good at reabsorbing bile too. 95% is the bile that is produces is reabsorbed by your body. Both types of fiber will inhibit bile reabsorption, therefore lowering your cholesterol over time.
     
  15. thebeave

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    Not at all. Food list (90-95% of my foods come from this). Keep in mind that this is a 4000-4500 calorie diet, sodium and saturated fats are normal for this level of calories:

    -whole eggs
    -egg whites
    -skim milk
    -chicken breasts
    -lean steak
    -lean turkey burgers
    -lean ground beef/turkey
    -salsa
    -vegetables
    -fruits
    -brown rice
    -natural peanut butter
    -almonds
    -oats
    -low fat plain yogurt
    -cottage cheese
    -salmon
    -tuna
    -sardines
    -black beans
    -lettuce
    -olive oil (for cooking salmon/chicken/mixing with vinegar for a dressing)
    -vinegar
    -whole grain pasta


    I already eat an average of 50g per day, but if you think it will help then I'll try to do that. I eat 2 cups of raw uncooked oats (in a shake) on days that I work out (every morning, and PWO I throw a cup of raw oats in the blender for my shake) which is said to reduce cholesterol and is also full of fiber.
     
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    I would take a close look at those "lean" meats you are buying. "Lean" may not be what you think it means. I picked up this ground beef package at the store the other day and in big bold letters it said "LEAN GROUND BEEF- 80% fat-free." But I looked at the percentage of calories from fat and it was actually 61% fat. Companies put the fat-by-weight % on the front of the package, not the % of calories from fat, which are two completely different things. All meat (chicken/turkey/beef) manufactures label their products like this.

    80% fat free really means, 20lbs of fat for every 100lbs of this product.

    Apples, apricots, oranges, and plums are all good sources of fiber that could help contribute to the inhibition of cholesterol absorption.
     
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    To be honest I haven't even eaten any ground meats since I have started counting calories. It's been 90% tuna/chicken/turkey and a few steaks.
     
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    It would be good for you to get a report on your specific HDL and LDL levels. As long as your total cholesterol stays below 200, you'll be fine, and you'll be even better if you make an attempt to keep your HDL levels high.
     
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    OMG 80% lean beef!!!

    :run:
     
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    and a shit load of that fat gets removed if you just cook and drain it.
     
  21. thebeave

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    I also read somewhere that as long as your potassium levels exceed sodium levels you can pretty much have as much sodium as you want. I don't know if this is true and can't remember where I read it.
     
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  23. thebeave

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    As little as I read this forum I actually thought of you when I wrote that.
     
  24. 4cd-Air

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    shits good for you, man
     
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