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  1. honorpenguin

    honorpenguin New Member

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    I take the superpump250 before i work out can i take anything else with this without any problems or should i take some else at different times? i hear and see a lot of guys taking a whole lot of stuff like creatine, glutamine, etc.. but the directions on most of this stuff says not take any other supps is that for legal purposes.
     
  2. grimstone

    grimstone magic murda bag OT Supporter

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    I am going to outline my supplement list here for you guys and also answer any questions with in reason on applications/modifications to you guys based on age income and experience.

    I believe commercial supplements are over used greatly in the sport and the appeal of the fancy ads and fancy labels leave many a young man with nothing but a lil pump and flush and lighter wallet.
    What I will outline is the BASICS-that means base-what has worked for me and my clients and others over the years.

    Some basics are left out of my stack as my goals are different, creatine is a very powerful tool, as well as high quality blends of MRP shakes (when a meal is impossible) and long acting protein blends before bed.

    BCAA's are very beneficial centered around any time of catabolism-especially dieting and post work out. So in certain terms -things will differ when I give advice for those asking.

    My protein of preference is Pepto Pro I usually will add 10 grams to a powerade and drink it in between meals or as a quick boost if tied up in a meeting or at my desk.

    I like mixing my EFA's (Fish and Cod liver oil) with egg white protein-so that may be a shake option at night or in between a meal at home or on the road or weekends.

    True Protein is my mainstay and has been since it's inception. I have never taken higher quality supplements and powders anywhere at anytime in my career. You guys are lucky, when I was at my peak -the bulk protein and carb supply business was in it's infancy and what was out there was low quality and poor customer service. I really could have blasted WELL past my peak with the arsenal of supplements available from True Protein.

    Here is the list of supplements I take daily pretty much year round (there may be a few I forgot as I am approaching the big 4-0:

    3 Multivitamin Mineral Capsules -1 cap 3 x a day
    http://www.trueprotein.com/Product_D...id=25&pid=6926
    washed down with 2 tablespoons supergreens 3 x a day
    http://www.trueprotein.com/Product_D...id=25&pid=6859

    Vitamin E 400 iu's

    Vitamin D3 caps 2-4,000 iu's

    Cod Liver Oil/Very Finest Fish Oil -I take the E and D with the fish oil.

    Ester C 4000 mgs


    Night time-before bed
    Sleep Caps 2
    http://www.trueprotein.com/Product_D...id=25&pid=6882
    Mangnesium-500 mgs
    Zinc -30 mgs

    50 grams eggwhite and 10 grams Fish oil

    Other supplements are centered around the pre and powo times

    Pepto Pro
    http://www.trueprotein.com/Product_D...id=22&pid=6805

    Glycerol
    http://www.trueprotein.com/Product_D...id=25&pid=6837

    Glutamine
    http://www.trueprotein.com/Product_D...?cid=25&pid=92

    Swedish Oat Starch
    http://www.trueprotein.com/Product_D...id=23&pid=6828

    Egg White Protein
    http://www.trueprotein.com/Product_D...?cid=22&pid=64

    Now my pre-post work out mix looks like this (I make one large shake and drink about 1/2 30 minutes before with 500 mls water, then during the work out I will drink about another 1000 mls of water and then follow with the other 1/2 of the concoction below:
    20-30 grams of pepto pro
    100=120 grams or more of waxy maize
    10-20 grams of L-Glutamine
    a few pinches of sea salt
    10-20 mls of Glycerol
    Packet of True Proteins Krystal Klear (in testing phase)
    1-2 grams of Stevia to really sweeten it up
    http://www.trueprotein.com/Product_D...id=25&pid=6729

    Oh yea-these shaker bottles are the bomb I think I have ten of them.
    http://www.trueprotein.com/Product_D...id=23&pid=6743

    I usually carry 2 around with dry powder in them and then can mix and go with simply adding a Powerade or Crystal Light.
     
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    grimstone magic murda bag OT Supporter

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    Besides the staples like protein powder/creatine etc

    For Immune System (mine has always been subpar until i hit this key stack)
    Astralagus
    Oliveleaf extract
    Beta Glucans

    For overall health
    multivitamin
    vitamin E
    cal mag zinc

    For control of prolactin levels (and health reasons) the following 2 supplements
    Vitex
    Bit B-6

    For heart health and a myriad of other factors
    1)Coenzyme Q10 (saw recently where 70% of studied heart attack patients had a distinct deficiency-and also anyone on Lipotor or statin drugs should note that those compounds wipe out coenzyme q10 almost completely)
    2)green tea extract

    For digestion (thanks to Massive G for helping me on some of this--improved my digestion immensely)
    ginger root (digestion and anticoagulant)
    acidophilus (with pectin)
    metamucil (once a day powder in one of my early day protein shakes)
    papaya/bromelain

    For Joint health
    chrondroit/glucosamine

    I believe anyone using super supplements (and even those who dont) should be supplementing with the top 3 of the following items or they are comprimising their health
    1)Niacin (ldl/hdl ratio)
    2)Omega Fish oils EPA DHA (3 grams a day same as rex said above)
    3)sylmarin
    4)avena sative and nettle root (for shbg levels)

    thats me personally but i put in bold what i feel strongly about that people should be taking
     
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    jesus grim how much do you spend on supplements alone?
     
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    grimstone magic murda bag OT Supporter

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    Perusing my supplement cabinet I see:

    ALA
    Rhodiolo
    ALCAR
    Piracitam
    NAC
    Idebenone
    Creatine Ethyl Ester
    MSM
    Lecithin
    Taurine
    Fish Oil
    Flax Oil
    Chocimine
    L-Tryosine
    Digestive Enzymes
    Vitamin C
    Alpha-GPC
    Injectable B-12 complex
    Green Tea Capsules
    Beverly International Super Vitamin/mineral Super Pak

    Now please keep in mind I do NOT use all of these items every day, but on most days take a LOT of supps. Why? Because they help performance AND HEALTH. Yes, they are a big benefit and well worth the nmoney spent to ME……

    But……the truth is, with just a SUPER vitamin/mineral supp pack, and fish oil and creatine and or tuarine you can get TOTALLY awesome results. Many people think supps, just like many people think gear is the big factor of success—THEY COULD NOT BE MORE WRONG. Proper diet and training are by FAR the largest factors of success. To think otherwise is just making excuses.
     
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    grimstone magic murda bag OT Supporter

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    im just copying pasting stuff. but i do spend a good amount on supps
     
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    yes you can mix them. Just don't go mixing stimulants with stimulants. I believe superpump already has creatine, but stuff like bcaa's are good to take during workouts.
     
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    In the good ol days I'd take hydroxycut and noxplode within hours of eachother, probably not the best for my heart.
     
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    Do you actually take Piracetam ?
     
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    Stick with Protein, Fish oil and a good Multivitamin
     
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    Right now, I take whey protein, a multi, fish oil, Pslin, and Jacked3d.
     
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    grimstone magic murda bag OT Supporter

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    what i take right now
    basics
    muli
    fishoil
    creatine
    taurine

    vitamins/antioxidants
    vitamin c
    Alpha Lipoic Acid
    calcuim
    ALCAR

    joint support
    Glucosamine HCL
    Chondroitin Sulfate
    Cissus Quadrangularis
    MSM

    digestion
    Betaine HCL

    amino acids
    bcaa
    eaa
    Glutamine

    cutting right now
    Synephrine HCI
    Yohimbine HCI
    green tea
    Caffeine
    fosklin

    i just listed individual ingredients.
     
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    Raw goats meat

    butter
     
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    ant protein
     
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    What about like BCAA, Glutamine, and flax seed oil? I hear people talking about them but dont really know what you take them for. Right now i just take a one a day mens and then use ON Whey. I lift 4-5 days a week depending on how im feeling and what i have going on that week. Try to run 4 or 5 days a week as well.

    So products like these
    http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/store/en/browse/sku_detail.jsp?id=VS-2045
    http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/store/en/browse/sku_detail.jsp?id=VS-1227

    Are they something i should be taking every day? Ive only been serious about working out for about 6 months so im kinda of new to these things...
     
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