Discussion in 'OT Technology' started by The Ripper, Apr 18, 2008.
Just wanted to see how the job market was in different areas.
i'm currently doing an internship at cisco.
cisco is mainly looking for engineers though
i do mainly hardware for the navy, but i am literate on software and making it do what i want. (mostly AD)
i'm not in it right now, finishing up my degree [link]
although i don't feel very confident working with cisco. in a class lab it is one thing, at a job site, it is totally different
The job market is great in networking, the only problem is you have a lot of competition b/c everyone is aware of how important networking is to large industry and small commercial venues. I wouldn't be surprised if large companies like Cisco etc. will eventually (or do) require Ph.D.s with an emphasis in networking, assuming you are referring to development of new networking protocols etc.
dorkultra, why not confident?
Technically my job title is "Network Systems Specialist," and I do a large amount of networking in my organization...though I must say that the thing to do is stay generalized. You'll open up many more opportunities that way. My duties not only include a large amount of networking, but I also manage a large number of Windows and SUSE servers, maintain the organization website, and even develop PHP and Perl applications for use inside our organization.
Essentially what I'm saying is that I'd recommend not limiting yourself to solely "networking." Learn as much as you can and employers are more likely to hire you for your versatility.
Isn't that typically covered in a "networking" education? Not only networking, but also system administration and some programming? Because, really, both of those skills are crucial to networking, but aren't networking in and of themselves. It's like a math major being required to take physics.
Or an accounting major being required to take a Phys Ed class (only was required for the Associates, bot the bachelors Im working on now)
Luckily I took some basics at a community college when I went back for my accounting degree and was able to take phys ed online...
lol at phys ed online.
well guys im going to start training in 2 weeks or so. Im going to this little tech school and the program is about 12 weeks. They said by the time im done I should easily pass the a plus certification and I should be ready for the network + and security + tests as well. They offer some other shorter courses that are specific to network and security + and a study group to get you ready for each one. My goal is to get my A+ by the end of the program and within a month get my security + and then the following month get my network +. Then eventually start taking classes to get cisco certification.
My question is how much am I looking to make with the a+ certification alone in the mean time and what type of jobs should i be looking for. Would the 30 - 35k range be realistic?
with something like a+ cert you'd MAX OUT at $30k. I mean MAX OUT. Figure $10-14/hour
I figured. Some of the guys from the school Im about to go to told me the most youd make is about 15. Im hoping for the 13 to 15 range. Maybee help desk type stuff or something. Really I just want to get into the IT field as early as possible with the a+ and still be making enough to get by. 13 - 15 range would allow me to do that.
With Security + and network + and about 6 months of experience how much would I be looking to make?
the CompTIA "+" certs are worthless.
call center reps can make $30-45k with commission.
what job are you actually trying to get?
Thats a good place for him to start out. He'll be getting IT experience, and if he keeps learning and training himself, the sky is the limit. He wants to be a Network Admin, those certs will get his foot in the door to a workplace with a network.
If you didn't sacrifice your adolescence to self-study in IT, some kind of technical training/certification is not a bad idea.
yea right now im making 12 an hour and its enough for me to get by id like to be making a little bit more and I could be pretty comfortable. I live with my grandpa so really I dont have to worry about rent or anything like that I just have some student loans to pay off. I got my BS in criminal justice but after about 2 years of trying to get work in the field the only options in my area are security and I dont want to be working in security for 20 years.
So im still pretty young im still 24 so I have time to jump in the IT field now. Im just hoping its not another dead end like my college degree
Wait, why can't you get a job as a cop or parole officer?
I cant become a cop any more because right after I graduated college I found out I had a birth defect and had to have surgery to correct it. Wolf Parkinsons white is what I had. It shouldnt be a big deal once you have the corrective surgery your cleared for all physical activity for the rest of your life. Its a streight forward procedure but because I had heart surgery most police departments wont hire me. Theres three that have told me they would hire me but they are all out of state. The problem with that is Im the primary care giver for my grand father and he cant get by with out me because hes disabled.
So Im pretty much stuck where I live. As far as probation and parole here in south florida the governor has been cutting alot of taxes so as a result all of the state and local government jobs are on hiring freezes and have been since around the time I graduated from college. Ive been trying to get jobs like those for around 2 years but the way south florida is right now its just not happening.
Realistically I have two options, leave florida or change career fields. Unfortunately I cant leave south florida because I have obligations which are tieing me down here.
if you didn't "sacrifice your adolescence" or have the "knack" then it's probably not the right field.
if you want to be a net admin and don't already have the knowledge (and beyond) to pass A+, then you've already failed.
A+ is some pretty basic shit due. P07 is right. Good luck with your career on a lighter note though.
Thats bullshit. Most IT Jobs don't take much talent or the "knack" and most people in the field don't have it. He can do just fine working his way up from an A+ job. Help desk doesn't require mad skillz, but it is a good jumping off point if he continues to learn.
you're right on both counts. But help desk people make shitty pay, and just because most people don't have the skillz doesn't mean they're happy, their company is happy, they're paid well, or otherwise.
Its a good place to start. He can learn network administration as a help-desk guy while getting relevant experience. Not everyone is a hacker, and they don't need to be.
agreed and thats pretty much the plan. I have seen freinds go from not knowing much to being very knowledgable. It took them time but they got it done.