MIL How helpful is the air force academy?

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  1. Hebrew Hammer

    Hebrew Hammer Resident Jew goalie OT Supporter

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    I am sure I want to be a pilot. I do not have good enough grades in high school to get me to the air force academy but I am sure I can get the grades in college(I did not do any work in high school). How much of a boost up does the air force academy give you? Is it worth it to go there instead of joining the air force after college?
     
  2. kidhero

    kidhero not really a hero, really just a big fat phony

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    quite a big boost
     
  3. Hebrew Hammer

    Hebrew Hammer Resident Jew goalie OT Supporter

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    so I would be much more likely to get a good gig? What are the hardest planes to get assigned to?
     
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    Air Force Academy grads get automatic slots in flight school in they pass the test. Fighters are the easiest to get, and if you can get enough recommendations and a nomination the academy is the best bet to fly for the air force.
     
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    ManinCamo I wear big boy pants.

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    You need to do some research on UPT.

    http://www.baseops.net/militarypilot/
    http://www.baseops.net/archive/archiveupt.html

    Being an academy grad will help your chances of being selected for UPT, but nothing is written in stone. Academy just has more spots to send folks to UPT. Beyond that, it's up to you to pass the course and excell. Once you're in UPT you're racked and stacked against your peers. IF you are #1, you get your #1 choice, #2 gets whats left after #1 makes their choice, etc. If you suck you either get the last options left after everyone else has chosen. If you're really not cut out, they cut you from the program and you retrain to some other career field.

    There are three phases. Classroom, intro flight stuff, and then onto your specific 'track'. " Students request Track preference - you pick your Track, not your Aircraft"


    Career wise later, being academy will help a little bit for making rank. It's like a big fraternity.
     
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    ManinCamo I wear big boy pants.

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    :hsugh:
     
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    Hebrew Hammer Resident Jew goalie OT Supporter

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    thanks, thats really helpful.
     
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    my bad, fighters are the hardest to get. All i know is from my not so wonderful tour of the academy when i got accepted back in the day. That whole only being able to walk on certain color tiles during your first semester kinda turned me off from the whole idea.
     
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    High School to Flight School.

    Go army and fly the Boeing Mix Master
     
  10. ManinCamo

    ManinCamo I wear big boy pants.

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    My dad was academy. Because of his stories, I opted not to go. I should have though. I'd probably be flying a plane right now :hsd:
     
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    it helps but its not the magic path to flying that it used to be. go to a regular college and to ROTC or even OTS, unless you want the academy life.
     
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    brackac Fuck all of this. OT Supporter

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    That sounds gay.

    On a gay side note, they are bringing the colored hats back to Rucker. :greddy:
     
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    Hebrew Hammer Resident Jew goalie OT Supporter

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    How strict is the academy? Does the academy feel like being in the military and not college?
     
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    ManinCamo I wear big boy pants.

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    I've personally talked with seven academy grads, one of which was prior enlisted, and they all say it was hell. Imagine a college where the freshmen have to listen and do whatever the upperclassmen tell them to do. But, if you want to fly planes and can tough it out, you are guaranteed a pilot slot.
     
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    Not worth it unless you are 100% sure you want to fly and are willing to give up a normal "college experience". Also make sure your eyes are good. It'll be a kick in the junk to find out your eyes got worse after you get into the academy. That's what happened to me. = (
     
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    If I was gonna go green I'd rather fly blackhawks or an apache. I was doing a memorial day color guard and they had a blackhawk do a flyby low overhead. It sounded so cool. I wanted to look soooo bad.
     
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    ManinCamo I wear big boy pants.

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    They send otherwise well qualified folks for PRK now, if your eyes are correctable :hs:
     
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    brackac Fuck all of this. OT Supporter

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    Chinook > Blackhawk.


    If only I could have picked my arm up over my head. :wtc:
     
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    Hebrew Hammer Resident Jew goalie OT Supporter

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    thats really what I am worried about. Giving up the college experience vs. a step up on my career path.

    How long does training take once out of college?
     
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    ManinCamo I wear big boy pants.

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    you'll spend about a year (give or take a few months) on casual status. While there you'll do gopher work for the wing or operations squadron, and/or work on your Intro flying (i think it's 30 flying hours, civilian instruction to learn the basics).

    I don't know for sure since I'm not a flier, but I think once your UPT class date starts, training is 12-18 months depending on your track.
     
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    essplain?
     
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    brackac Fuck all of this. OT Supporter

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    At the time of aircraft selection my range of motion was very limited; I couldn't lift my arm past my ear, nor could I put my arm behind my back. With the Chinook being as large as it is I wasn't confident I would be able to reach everything. For that reason I went with my second choice which was the Apache. Fortunately the shoulder surgery in february restored 90% of my range of motion.
     
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    So the doc was able to fix you up? Highly recommended I assume?
     
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    No way would I give up college for the academy, I'm an AF officer was picked up through OTS and quite frankley if you can pass the physical and have average scores you have a 50/50 shot at getting a pilot slot and unlike the academy and ROTC if you dont get pilot your not stuck in the AF if thats all you really want to do.

    Academy might help get you General, but I dont think it helps much up to that point. From my experience Academy grads come out 2 ways.... Socially inept or complete drunkan idiots due to the fact they had no college experience, very few seem to normal and from what I hear its not till about captain that it evens out.
     

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