How does this set-up look?

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  1. honey

    honey Active Member

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    I will be primarily using it for graphic design, internet, hdtv watching.recording, music and only some gaming. It will be hooked up to two dell 2407's.


    Qty. Product Description Savings Total Price



    2 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
    $179.98
    ($89.99 each)



    Creative 70SB046A00000 7.1 Channels PCI Interface Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Professional Series - Retail
    $140.99



    2 x CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X2048-6400 - Retail
    $401.98
    ($200.99 each)


    ASUS P5B Deluxe/WiFi-AP LGA 775 Intel P965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
    COOLMAX CUG-700B ATX 12V( V.2.2) 700W Power Supply - Retail
    Combo Price
    $322.98

    EVGA 640-P2-N821-AR GeForce 8800GTS 640MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video Card - Retail
    Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe 2.4GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6600 - Retail
    Combo Price
    $702.99

    Subtotal: $1,748.92 (without rebates, etc.)

    How does this look? Anywhere I can skimp READ: can I save money somehow? Any recommendations on any components? Is there anything else I need?

    What's the lowest vid card I can get to run the two 2407's with HDTV without an issue?

    I also need to get a case and was looking at this one:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811196021

    what's the absolute cheapest i can build this computer or one that is similar?

    Thanks!
     
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    DAN513 OT Supporter

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    looks good to me. I'm not a fan of the case, but it looks like it has decent cooling if you add a 120mm fan for the back, something slow and quiet, around 40-60cfm should do well.
    You could look at the Antec Nine Hundred. It comes with 2 front 120mm fans, a rear 120mm fan and a top mounted 200mm fan, and they all have 3 speeds, so you don't need to go deaf. IMO it's a nicer case and the build quality is better.
     
  3. deusexaethera

    deusexaethera OT Supporter

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    How are you planning to use those hard drives? If you're willing to drop the extra cash, you could buy a third one, RAID them, have 640GB of storage space, and not have to worry about losing your digital portfolio if one of the drives takes a dirt nap.

    EDIT: regarding fans, I recommend you replace any and all fans that come with your case -- they wouldn't be giving them away for free if they weren't the cheapes POSs in the parts bin. I like SilenX fans because they're quiet, effective, and most importantly, shiny.
     
  4. honey

    honey Active Member

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    would I need to buy a RAID card or anything? how hard is it to set that up? As for the fans in the case goes, I've read reviews of the case on tomshardware, arstechnica, newegg, etc. and they say the special fans that come with the case own.
     
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    deusexaethera OT Supporter

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    The motherboard you're getting has six (count 'em!) SATA plugs on it. Probably not all of those can be turned into one huge RAID, but if the colors are any indication, you can build a 4-disk RAID and life will be good.

    RAID controllers have separate BIOSes that fire up right after the main BIOS does its thing with detecting the memory and the IDE hard drives. All you have to do to set up a RAID is plug the drives in, stick numbered stickers on each drive, cable, and socket (to make absolutely sure you don't get their wires crossed later), and tell the RAID controller's BIOS to make a RAID from the drives you've installed. From there on out, you use the RAID like you would use any single hard disk.

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    Alright, well if the fans are already good, then that's fine. I'm used to cases that come with cheap fans that make Sunon look like a hot-shit brand name.
     
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    shitty mobo
     
  7. deusexaethera

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    The older versions had BIOS issues, but the new ones (or the ones with BIOS updates) are supposed to work just fine. Is there something else you know about that causes problems?
     
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    P07r0457 New Member

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    on AMD, the asus boards have been good to me. But on intel, I wouldn't touch them with a 10 foot pole.

    If you're gonna buy an intel chip, you're silly to not go with an intel mobo.
     
  9. Doc Brown

    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    What am I missing about the memory? You should be able to get 2gb of XMS for just over $200.
     
  10. honey

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    so do I need to buy a raid card or is the raid controller just software?
     
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    P07r0457 New Member

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    it's shittastic software
     
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    honey Active Member

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    New, updated build:



    SAMSUNG 18X DVD±R DVD Burner With 12X DVD-RAM Write, LightScribe
    $30.99

    AeroCool ExtremEngine 3T - BBA Black SECC 0.6mm ATX Mid Tower Computer
    $109.99


    Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD 150GB 10,000 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard
    $209.99


    3 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS (Perpendicular Recording Technology) 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
    $269.97

    XFX PVT71PUDD3 GeForce 7900GS 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card
    $189.99

    SONY Black IDE CD-ROM Drive Model CDU5225 - OEM
    $13.99

    Creative 70SB046A00000 7.1 Channels PCI Interface Sound Blaster X-Fi
    $145.99

    Thermaltake W0093RU ATX 12V 2.0 Version 500W Power Supply - Retail
    $79.99

    Logitech diNovo Edge 2-Tone USB Bluetooth Wireless Mini Keyboard - Retail
    $154.99

    SUPER TALENT INT-AIN1-C All-in-1 USB 2.0 Card Reader - Retail
    $6.99


    Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM
    $5.99


    CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
    $199.00

    ASUS P5B-E LGA 775 Intel P965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
    $150.99


    Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe 2.4GHz LGA 775 Processor Model
    $313.00

    Subtotal: $1,881.86 (with an additional $110.00 in MIR's) = $1771

    The three hard drives will be in a RAID configuration (do I need a RAID card?)

    Is there anywhere I can skimp besides the keyboard? And any real benefit from 4 gigs of ram versus 2? What does RAM aid in exactly? What determines computer start-up time?
     
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    P07r0457 New Member

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    that psu is gonna blow up and start a fire.
     
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    honey Active Member

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    wtf, this is terrible help. no details or anything. can you recommend something?
     
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    honey Active Member

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    Also, I see any real benefit from 4 gigs of ram versus 2? What does RAM aid in exactly? What determines computer start-up time?
     
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    P07r0457 New Member

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    a 32-bit system won't even address a full 4GB, so no, don't do that.

    Look at a PC P&C psu if you can afford a bit more... Otherwise, get an enermax/fortron/sparkle
     
  18. deusexaethera

    deusexaethera OT Supporter

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    The RAID controller is built-in hardware.
     
  19. Doc Brown

    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    You've got a lot of good stuff listed there. But here's some pointers:

    First of all, no one knows every single detail of every single product out there. So it helps if you copy and paste the url of each part with the post so we can click on it to see what you've got picked out.
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    2gb like Jolly mentioned, is all you need.
    ......................................................................................................
    That Asus board has RAID built in. Speaking of RAID, I assume you're wanting to run
    the Raptor for your os, and then the 3 drives for backup?
    While we're on motherboards, what about overclocking?
    If you don't plan on it, you can do a couple of good things here.
    First off, if you don't plan on it, you can get an Intel motherboard which has very
    decent 8 channel onboard audio. You could save money on the soundcard and motherboard.

    This Intel motherboard has everything but the kitchen sink built right in for $127 shipped.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813121052
    6 SATA 3Gb/s
    Firewire
    8 x sigmatel audio with Dolby Home Theater Certification
    Onboard GMA X3000 video, which could help a lot if you ever had to troubleshoot your graphics card.
    6x USB 2.0 rear connectors
    4x USB 2.0 onboard for front panel
    DDR2 533/667/800
    RAID 0/1/0+1/5
    PCI Express x16
    3x PCI Express x1
    3x PCI slots
    .......................................................................................................

    How important is the wireless keyboard? Will you be sitting further from your pc than a normal keyboard cable will reach? You can save a bunch of money there if you get something wired.
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    What about the Sony CD-Rom? Are you wanting to do one to one transfers?
    If not, then save the extra connector, the Samsung burner will handle all of that.
    .......................................................................................................

    As far as psu's go, you need something a little better than you picked.
    This Enermax is only $115 after a $30 rebate. Good stuff.
    It's on Tyan's list for psu's that can work with their server boards.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817103447
    .......................................................................................................
     
  20. honey

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    Good stuff here, buddy

    Yes I will be using the Raptor for the OS, some resource intensive programs (photoshop, etc.) and programs I use frequently (firefox, office, etc.)

    The three 500 gig HD's will be in a RAID configuration.

    I have not yet made my mind up about overclocking. I would love to keep the option as it doesn't look extremely technical but I do not feel ready to commit to it right now. This is my first computer build and I don't need another aspect complicating things. Although if it decreased price (overclocking a E6300), then I would consider it much more seriously.

    The keyboard I want to get because it is the finishing touch on the computer and I have really wanted it for a while. Don't ask, I'm stupid.

    I plan to burn DVD's and such, so I may upgrade that CD-ROM drive to a DVD drive.

    I will definitely pick up a better PSU

    I will put up the links to the build shortly.
     
  21. Doc Brown

    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    FWIW, you listed 320gb drives, not 500gb.

    I'm not sure you realize how fast the E6600 is. You really wouldn't need to overclock it anytime soon.

    The Samsung does burn dvd's so again, unless you are wanting to do some sort of one to one transfers, you only need one burner.
    And anyway, with dvd's, you still have to go through the whole decryption thing first anyway.

    As far as the keyboard goes, all that matters is which one you have to have.
     
  22. honey

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    Oh, you're right with the DVD's.

    Yes, I changed it to a 1 TB RAID set-up...my computer can support this, right?
     
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    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    Sure. You could put all 750gb drives in there if you wanted to.
     
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    New build with links:

    SAMSUNG 18X DVD±R DVD Burner With 12X DVD-RAM Write, LightScribe Technology Black IDE Model SH-S182M/BEBE - OEM
    $30.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16827151136

    AeroCool ExtremEngine 3T - BBA Black SECC 0.6mm ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
    $109.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16811196021

    Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD 150GB 10,000 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM
    $209.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16822136012

    3 x Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
    $419.97
    ($139.99 each)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16822136073

    D-Link DWL-G122 USB 2.0 High Speed 2.4GHz Wireless Adapter - Retail
    $29.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16833127151

    XFX PVT71PUDD3 GeForce 7900GS 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail
    $189.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16814150209

    Creative 70SB046A00000 7.1 Channels PCI Interface Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Professional Series - Retail
    $139.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16829102005

    ENERMAX Liberty ELT500AWT ATX12V 500W Power Supply - Retail
    $109.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16817194003

    Logitech diNovo Edge 2-Tone USB Bluetooth Wireless Mini Keyboard - Retail
    $154.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16823126008

    SUPER TALENT INT-AIN1-C All-in-1 USB 2.0 Card Reader - Retail
    $6.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820609198

    Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM
    $5.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16835100007

    CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X2048-6400 - Retail
    $199.00
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820145590

    ASUS P5B-E LGA 775 Intel P965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
    $148.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813131070

    Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe 2.4GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6600 - Retail
    $313.00
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819115003

    Total: $2069.89

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    I wanna keep the ASUS board and the sound card because I do want to overclock in the future and I am very picky over sound quality (all my mp3's are lossless)

    Can I do better anywhere for the money? I'd like to ultimately get this down to around 1800 with the keyboard but it doesn't seems like that's gonna happen. Under $2000 and I'll be happy.
     
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