How do you guys calculate how much you can BB Row?

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  1. Layne Staley

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    Seriously, I was cruising through the training logs and saw where some of you are rowing over 225lbs and shit.........while benching nearly the same. How many of you actually "row" the weight up and squeeze at the top?

    I think for me to properly row 225lbs for reps I would be benching around 400lbs raw.
     
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    2 different muscles


    some people have stronger backs and weaker chests?


    my bb row = what i can do on chest


    but im a noob so take it for what it is =\
     
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    I don't think you can compare numbers like that. I, for one, am totally fucked up. My incline bench is only five or ten pounds less than my flat bench. I can shoulder press the same amount as my DB bench but for a few less reps. My DB incline/flat numbers are better than other guys that I see in the gym that can bench 50-100 pounds more than me.

    Today I saw a huge guy that can totally smash me on a flat BB bench, but was struggling with weight that I do on a warm up set on incline. I guess some people are just naturally stronger at some lifts than others.:dunno:
     
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    Doing a GOOD barbell row is very hard. Most people are upright and just throw shit around. I don't see how anyone could only bench 225 yet row that LOL
     
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    most people do rows with horrible form and bullshit about their numbers for whatever reason
     
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    Obviously it is pulling vs. pushing. But i'm talking about people claiming to bench 225 for 5reps max.......and them row the same weight. Fucking impossible with my body. My bench is somewhere around 315.....my row is under 200lbs all day long.
     
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    i max bench 225 for a few

    row 180 for 5-6
     
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    Yeah. I had one of those introverted days at the gym today where I was really thinking about shit like this while I was lifting. I was doing shrugs with 225lbs with proper form, really getting a good squeeze and going for the burn and all that bullshit, and I wondered how people claim to shrug over 500lbs.

    I think most people that claim to row insane amounts just yank that shit off the floor and let it fall back down with minimal to ZERO control.
     
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    Basically, I raw bench 400+ and I can row 225 and keep things pretty strict. 275 it starts getting looser and 315 is just ugly.

    I always crack up when I see guys saying they rowed 4-500lbs and shit then when they post videos its the worst shit you've ever seen.

    but hell i havn't even done BB rows in forever
     
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    with good form and a 650 deadlift i can row about 245-265 strict for maybe 8 reps. if i swing like most people i can do in the upper 3's. for a few weeks i did the swing like most people do and i was hitting 315 for 10-12 reps.
     
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    i row 225 for 3x10 or so if i'm doing them explosively

    around 175 for 3x10 if they're strict as hell

    but who cares anyways? some people say they are supposed to be an explosive movement and you get more out of them that way
     
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    Makes sense. The 315DL crew doing 315 rows is :bowrofl:
     
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    maybe a bench grip low cable row might have a better correlation? even so, not everyone would have that idea ratio and would depend on what kind of back development they have from years of lifting
     
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    i think there are points in time for both methods, i also think rows and shrugs are a couple of the prime examples of people doing dumb shit just to boast on the net, you'd be surprised how many people put a lot of worth on dick swinging on the internet.
     
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    I never go heavy on rows, that shit might tear me up
     
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    Honestly though, how many average people have spent equal time on pulling movements compared to benching? Not many.

    These are the people I'm talking about, its a lot easier for noobs to cheat with weight that is starting on the floor as opposed to over their face.
     
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    right... people love to push and hate pulling..

    yeah i agree with yah
     
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    I admit I used to cheat a little on rows, but not to the extent of most people. Now I concentrate more on strict form and getting a good squeeze.....and I feel like i'm getting so much more out of the workout.
     
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    I wouldn't. Look at Bateman :rofl:
     
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    I stopped doing BORs because I was to lazy to load/unload the bar when I could just use one of the millions of Hammer Strength back machines.
     
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    My best comp raw bench is 440, my best b/o row (for sets) is in the mid 200's, can get a few reps with 315 without getting too sloppy but using a little body english, it's all to shit after that though.

    They're a good exercise, but for what I'm doing (building a bench) I like the chest supported row among other machines better. Still, great basic exercise. I noticed that Mike Wolfe does a lot of bent over db rows, I tried those and like them.
     
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    I can't get the same concentrated burn doing DB rows. I guess my form sucks with them.
     
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    I haven't figured out how to get the same feeling either; I just do them for variety and figure they're doing something! I usually do a few exercises so I'm fried when I leave the gym anyway.
     
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    Welp, I'm hammered on Rum and Diet Dr. Pepper. G'night!
     
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