MMA How do you escape guillotine choke from inside the guard?

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  1. geekboy

    geekboy Target Agent OT Supporter

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    I got nailed with that 5 times this morning:greddy:

    oh yeah, no-gi crew
     
  2. momentum

    momentum CAN'T STOP THIS SON!

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    tap out lol
     
  3. Gogoplata

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    Very few escapes. With your outside arm you want to reach up as high as you can over his head and put it on the mat. Start walking your hand on the mat. This CAN give you a tiny amount of space to breathe. If he gives you that space, start pushing your neck/head against his arm to pull out of it.

    9/10 if the guard is closed and he's not gassed or slippery - game over.
     
  4. adrenalin112

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    its even worse if your opponent has a sick ten-finger guillotine. :wtc:
     
  5. Joris

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    This is what I try to do:

    If you're being guillotine'd with your head on the left side, reach your right arm up and around his shoulder/neck and reach as far as you can along his back. Come up onto your toes and drive forward, putting your forehead on the ground. With your left hand, grab his wrist and try to make some space for yourself. Also drive your right shoulder into his neck. If you do it right, he shouldn't be able to finish you from this position.
     
  6. chechen

    chechen Brazilian Jiu Jitsu OT Supporter

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    yeah. this is assuming one of your arms isnt trapped in the guillotine
     
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    If his guard is closed up and tight you're kinda fucked. You could escape by passing to side mount but that's hard to do.
     
  8. kroneX

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    lets just say his using his right arm 4 the guilo.
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    step one, come up onto your toes so you are kind arched like this // \o

    step two,using your right shoulder you really push it into his face, if you can grab behind his head and drive your shoulder into it, it can also help but you gotta watch for different sweeps/submissions from here.

    step 3, as soon as he put the guilotine on your left hand should be trying to give yourself some breathing room.

    If you execute all these properly he will hang on, but he won't submit you and will let go cause a) his afraid his arm will gas out if he keeps trying for it and lets go, b) his arm gases and you pretty much win the fight.
     
  9. rtzcom

    rtzcom bon wons! fight slepa for life sone!~

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    von flue choke?
     
  10. ZZex

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    dawt to all. If he got your arm in, you are screwed kinda. The whole point is don't get caught in it. The shoulder press helps to make him super uncomfortable but it's pretty much game
     
  11. rtzcom

    rtzcom bon wons! fight slepa for life sone!~

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    Doesn't it matter since your dropping your shoulder on the other person's neck either way?
     
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    quite a bit in fact. not gonna get a von flue in someones closed guard.
     
  13. brolli

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    this is correct


    if your arm is stuck inside too, then "frame" your trapped arm across his chest and create space and attempt to escape. Hard to describe in words here. Do not feel like you are "safe" because your arm is caught in it too, people who are good at this position can finish the guillotine just as easy, and can also do the peruvian neck tie.
     
  14. TCMS

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    SERIOUS? Dude, come on.
     
  15. rtzcom

    rtzcom bon wons! fight slepa for life sone!~

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    shush...that is no way to talk to a champion
     
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    nah, ive rolled with him before. and i could see this happening. :wiggle:
     
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    had that happen to me once during training

    shit sucked :rofl:
     
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