MIL How do you determine if someone is a veteran ??

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  1. EYOB

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    I used to think it was some who served or is serving in our military.

    But when it comes to job applications and such, there seems to be different types of veterans.

    Anyone have a clue about what I'm talking about ??
    Anyone know how I can find out what constitutes what type of veteran a person might be ??
     
  2. EYOB

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    ....24 months of continuous service or the full period for which called to active duty and served in a campaign or expedition for which a campaign bade is authorized.

    What is the GWOT Medal classified as, if anything ??
    I've only served 11 months and 21 days of Active Duty, excluding training.
     
  3. MassiveGas

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    we got the GWOT straight outta AIT :dunno:
    the service medal though, not the expeditionary one
     
  4. jmx2323

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    yeah I got GWOT ribbon right out of OTS
     
  5. Vagitarian

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    Campaign would be Afghanistan or Iraq service.
     
  6. thesuperlurker

    thesuperlurker yes i know i have few posts... you arent the first

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    I never understood how you Air Force guys justified that considering:

    Service members must be assigned, attached, or mobilized to a unit participating in or serving in support of designated operations for 30 consecutive days or 60 nonconsecutive days, or must meet one of the following criteria:

    * Be engaged in actual combat regardless of time in the operation; or,
    * While participating in the operation, regardless of time, is killed, wounded, or injured requiring medical evacuation from the operation.


    Is your OTS somehow considered supporting a unit?
     
  7. NPH

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    There are like five different categories I think. The VA has them somewhere. I know because I have this little booklet on the MGIB and I fall under CAT 1. The rest are Vietnam, disabled, etc. I used to think a "veteran" was someone who participated in combat, but if you served (regardless of deployment status), you're considered a veteran. You must meet certain criteria though.

    I'm a veteran :wiggle:
     
  8. Insdav3

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    IMO Veteran = Deployed to theatre
     
  9. NPH

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    Support element :o
     
  10. Insdav3

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    "Are you a veteran?"
    "Yeah"
    "Oh cool! Where did you go?"
    "California, North Carolina"
    ":hsugh:"

    ^ Just seems silly

    I guess the deployed are combat veterans (even though some never see outside of the wire)
     
  11. NPH

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    Or you can just say "everywhere" or "I'm not allowed to talk discuss about it due to the specifics." [​IMG]

    I served honorably.. that's more than what some people can say. So fuck'em if all they want to do is hear war stories. I can tell them my boot camp stories if that's what gets their juices flowing. :rolleyes: I joined after the terrorists attacks knowing I could be yards away from these fuckers one day.. just never happened, oh fucking well.
     
  12. EYOB

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    The unit I was attached too was sent to Iraq. I had a chance, but they sent someone else in my place instead. :sad2:
     
  13. scottiemac

    scottiemac It's time to shoot some hot dogs!

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  14. Insdav3

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    :ugh2: If you were in the REAR and you are prideful of your service, WHY TRY AND LOOK LIKE SOMEONE WHO HAS ACTUALLY GONE IN-COUNTRY with all your CIA 'I can't tell you' :mb: shit?
     
  15. EYOB

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    Deployed Military Personnel have a better reputation then those that have not been deployed?

    Everyone wants a better reputation. It just depends on how much of your emotions you want to sacrifice.
     
  16. NisAznMonk

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    How would you know if someone was actually in combat vs. someone who was in a support role?
     
  17. EYOB

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    medals/badges?
     
  18. widds2v

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    Pretty sure the GWOT expeditionary medal qualifies you to be a part of the VFW, the service one doesn't since everyone gets it, it's like the national defense now.
     
  19. EYOB

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    VFW?
     
  20. EYOB

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    OK. I am not a Veteran.
     
  21. NPH

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    It's a fucking joke genius, relax. When I get asked if I was ever deployed, everyone tells me something positive about never going over there. At the same time, I'm sure they'd say the same thing knowing that I made it back safe. I wouldn't make some bullshit up about being anywhere I wasn't. That's not me and I'd feel shitty about it. Shit, they're proud enough knowing I decided to join during a time of war. My chances going where as good as the next guy, just never happened. I got stuck in a fucking building my entire enlistment, that place sucked me in.. it was like a prison sentence.

    Most employers aren't gonna give a shit whether you deployed or not. They look at your DD214 and that's about it. Their main concern is that you served and got out voluntarily and would question otherwise. Medals aren't going to give you more money out in corporate America. Maybe a pat in the back and welcome home johnny. Fuck that noise. Unless you are trying to work for Blackwater or some other government agency that wants overseas experience.
     
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  22. dura

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    In the Army, the CAB/CIB/CMB are worn by personnel who have met the criteria for actual combat. Not everyone wears their stuff though. The combat patches are worn to signify service in a combat zone, regardless of being engaged or not.
     
  23. NPH

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    They have different medals.. the one we reported a lot was the Combat Action Ribbon. Like all awards, you have to meet specific criteria to rate it.
     
  24. widds2v

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    Veterans of Foreign Wars
     
  25. tattooed_sailor

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    I've got the Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal and the GWOT Expeditionary so I think I'm covered here :big grin:
     

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