How do you defrag a mac hard drive?

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  1. PeteDMeat

    PeteDMeat The Knuckleball OT Supporter

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    I'm running into problems w/ my hard drive becomming too fragmented for ProTools to be able to run on it. My problem lies that i have not been able to discover HOW to defrag. Any help?
     
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    P07r0457 New Member

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    due to the nature of how HFS works, a defrag can actually be very harmful to the integrity of your data.
     
  3. PeteDMeat

    PeteDMeat The Knuckleball OT Supporter

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    If your talking about the Journaling feature, I should have mentioned that I have that turned off. ProTools doesnt like it.
     
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    journaling has nothing to do with it... and you should leave it ON.
     
  5. PeteDMeat

    PeteDMeat The Knuckleball OT Supporter

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    The ONLY thing i use the mac for is to record using protools. And again, DigiDesign tells me that the program will NOT record to a journaled hard drive.

    So is there a way to defrag the drive?
     
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    Wow, that's lame. One good power outage, or unforeseen power outage and good bye data...
     
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    yea, I have not used protools, but that seems pretty stupid for them to have that requirement. Journaling is a big step to improve data integrity.


    As for defrag, no, do not do it. It can be harmful to your data. As for protools, it sounds like a horrible product. If you were recording, you'd want that data secure. Surprising to see a product that actually compromises that as much as protools.
     
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    journalling hurts hard disk performance, something that is key to an app like pro tools. there's a reason you're able to disable journalling--it isn't always the best way to go
     
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    P07r0457 New Member

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    dunno, NTFS has had journaling support for ages, and there's no slowdown there. And ext3 has been around for a long time, and there's really no reason to use ext2, anymore.

    I highly doubt that journaling takes enough of a performance hit to make turning it off a requirement.
     
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    IcyHot4Life Str8 Ballin'

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    :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: what the FUCK are you talking about... OS X can't even be installed to an HFS filesystem, it requires HFS+ or UFS.

    Seriously, please GTFO of the Mac Shack... all you seem to do here is hate against Apple, or spread gross misinformation about the Mac computing platform. Leave.
     
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    :werd: x11tybillion
     
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    x11tyquadtrillion...he's on my ignore list, but I still end up reading his crap because people quote him :hs:
     
  13. Laserbeak

    Laserbeak Remember kids! Be like Billy! BEHAVE YOURSELVES!

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    Norton Speed Disk will defrag your drive; it's a part of the Norton Utilities suite for the Mac. You can find more information about it here:

    http://www.symantec.com/nu/nu_mac/

    IMHO, NU rules along with DiskWarrior for optimizing performance and getting rid of pesky little problems with both OS 9 and OS X...just make sure you run both off of the CD, always. :p
     
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    I thought Norton Utilities was discontinued for OSX because it caused more problems than it fixed?

    Either way i'd stay far away from anything Symantec for Mac. Get diskwarrior instead.
     
  15. Laserbeak

    Laserbeak Remember kids! Be like Billy! BEHAVE YOURSELVES!

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    I've never had any problems with running DW and NU together, again, don't install it onto your local HD, run them all off the CDs, and things are fine. Nothing gets added to your System folder(s) or Library folders.
     
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    norton is a piece of shit. it used to be useful back in the os 9 days, but even that was questionable. norton is a great way to hurt performance and put your data at risk. and i speak from experience--personal and from supporting others. norton should be avoided like the plague
     
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    That's Norton in general, tho... not just for the mac.
     
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    :werd: it destroyed filesystems back in the 10.0-10.1 days, and that was enough to convince me that norton doesn't know wtf it is doing under OS X.

    You can't just carbonize an app that deals with your operating system on such a low level :hsugh: :slap: I swear to god it feels like they tried to do that
     
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    wow. no ones mentioned a permissions fix yet :wtf:
     
  20. SailFastLiveSlow

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    micromat sells drive10 and Tech Tool Pro4, both can defrag your HD (among other things), and are meant for mac (no pc version).
     
  21. PeteDMeat

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    And how'd one go about doing that?
     
  22. agent0068

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    because it's irrelevant to the problem he described. you might as well reboot and zap the pram--but don't expect anything from it.
     

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