how do these macros look?

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  1. karkez23

    karkez23 New Member

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    2403 cals 88 fat 197 carbs 205 protein

    im 5'9 160 trying to bulk

    thanks
     
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    more calories more proteen
     
  3. HorseDick

    HorseDick Active Member

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    Ratios look good, but you need more of everything.
     
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    More squats.

    Stop obsessing over macros and just eat and lift.
     
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    Well I wouldn't necessarily say stop "obsessing," but stop obsessing over specifics and get good, dense calories in and lift.
     
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    This.
     
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    Finest OG #93

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    He counted down to the exact calorie: 2403. Like that extra "3" is going to make a big difference. OCD, maybe?

    But I agree, get some whole foods in ya and lift. :wavey:
     
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    Probably using fitday.com which I'd reccomend. :dunno:
    At least he know's where he's at. Too many 'hardgainers' assume they eat everything when they're hardly eating enough. The opposite for those with 'slow metabolisms'.
     
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    I consider myself a 'hardgainer' but I've been maintaining 182 @ 2500 cals/day budget. When you (horse/timber) say a "whole lot more", how much more in calories are you thinking of??
     
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    If I was 5'9 160 I'd probably start around 2800-3000 cals and see where that gets me, then make adjustments from there...everyone is different though. Excess fat gain is usually nothing to worry about at that calorie level, so I think it would be a good starting point.
     
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    Pretty much what Horse said.
    I lose weight though slowly even at 2700. At least if I'm over 180lbs.
     
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    Bacchus Skinny Guy

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    Everything i've read about true hardgainers (including on the John Berardi website) recommend to START 18-24 x weight in calories.

    and like said in the other gain thread - i wasn't putting on weight until i was eating 4,000 a day

    i thought i was eating a lot at 3,200...
     
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    Bacchus Skinny Guy

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    that being siad, i've also lost 2.5 lbs this week reducing from 4,300 cals to 3,500. gone from 600g+ of carbs to 300

    not sure if that's possible, or it makes sense. But, i haven't been increasing cardio :S
     
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    Yeah, but you're metabolically "different" than most others at that bodyfat level. :fawk:
     
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