SRS how do people get jobs?

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  1. TekniX

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    i'm 23, 24 in may.
    i graduated may of 05 with a degree in engineering with a decent gpa of 3.1.
    i have almost 5 years of related co-op/intern/technician experience from this place i worked at while in school, part time/full time.

    i am looking on all the monster/careerbuilder/ctjobbank sites and school resources.
    i have been looking for work since may of 05 and can not find SHIT !
    the only people that call me back are contractors/agencies that can KISS MY ASS w/ their bull shit positions. (most of them aren't even in engineering) hell i'd take a technician position if it wasn't for a service tech.

    everything i look at has experience requirements pertaining to that particular company/position that a person straight out of school just can not have.

    this is all stressing me beyond belief and fucking up all my plans for the future, nothing big but i wanted to live at home for a year after graduation save up from my full time engineering job and start some real estate investing and whatever, and on top of that i have to pay these health insurance cocksuckers everymonth "in case shit happens".

    someone fucken hire me !
     
  2. johan

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    Is that the attitude you take with you to the interviews?
     
  3. BlazinBlazer Guy

    BlazinBlazer Guy Witness to The De-Evolution of Mankind.

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    Guess what, buddy: you gotta start somewhere. Nobody that I know of has ever just graduated college and walked right into their dream job. You've got to start in the trenches and work your way up just like everyone else. Besides, you won't be in a good financial position without having a job at all, so at the very least just take something that pays money and work at it until you find something better, and so on.

    Gee, what does that mean? You're shooting above your abilities and experience... and you aren't READY for the other positions. Again, hence the idea that you have to start somewhere, pay your dues, and do everything you can to pick up experience that will land you a better job down the road.

    Sorry to sound so rough about it, but wake up -- this is your reality check calling.
     
  4. TekniX

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    i don't think i was clear enough

    the problem w/ lower positions is that i can't score an engineering position because i was a tech previously, so if i get another tech job i'll never move up.


    so what kinda position should i be aming for w/ this shiny engineering degree
    home depot shelf stocker? wal mart greeter ?

    i don't think i'm stuck up or aiming high, but my expectation would be to get an engineering job after finishing engineering school.
     
  5. BlazinBlazer Guy

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    What kind of engineering is the degree in?
     
  6. TekniX

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    electronics
     
  7. BlazinBlazer Guy

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    By electronics, do you mean "electrical engineering"?? I'm beginning to think you aren't even sure what kind of degree/qualifications you have....
     
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    i walked into my dream job...gonna start in june after graduation. of course it took 4 years of busting my ass in school and learning about the banking industry.

    you just gotta keep looking, stay positive, and be prepared for anything.
     
  9. jayC

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    That's exactly how I feel, we're in the same boat. I graduated in December 05 with a Master's degree in Electrical Engineering from a highly ranked school with a good GPA. I still haven't found shit and there really doesn't seem to be shit out there. I've been looking hardcore for the passed 3 months and I really feel like just giving up and going to Wal-mart or McDonalds, etc. It's so wonderful that I spent 6 years of my life in college and it's this difficult to find a job. Fuck me.
     
  10. Toasty

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    I think engineering is like architecture...while your schooling is a good start to help you with your understanding of the principles, without field experience you're SOL trying to get hired in your dream position right off the bat.

    That's why a lot of young architects and engineers quit the field early on if they don't have the patience. I know at least 4 friends of mine who were trained in either one of these fields and only 1 has carried on as an electrical engineer today.

    You have to start at the far bottom and work you way up. There's no other way.
     
  11. Epicman

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    Maybe you guys are looking too high right off the bat? My sister graduated as an Electrical Engineer and had a job within a month. The job only pays $30,000 a year, and she knows that is well below what she should be making but she knows in two to three years she will have the experience under her belt to find a job that will likely pay her well over double what she is currently making.
     
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    I agree with you Toasty, you have to start somewhere. when I first got into engineering, I started out as a gopher. But, even doing that was a learning experience. You start out doing anything in your chosen field...you listen, watch, learn and do your very best, all the while keeping an eye out for something better, you network, etc.

    Landing the job of one's dreams, is difficult, but if one keeps focused one can do it. A positive attitude helps.
     
  13. lauren

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    most people i know got their jobs from

    (a) past coops/internships
    (b) 'networking'
    (c) college career fairs
     
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    dude, I went through a year and a half unemployment after graduating in 03 before a buddy of mine hooked me up with a job.

    It sucks, but part of life.
     
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    i had to work for 1-1/2 yrs. as a construction inspector before i found the engineering job i'm at now. Gotta start somewhere
     
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    Here's a thought. Find a job. Any job. Just so long as it's with a company that uses/needs electrical engineers. Work hard, impress your bosses. Do whatever task they assign you diligently, carefully, and exceed expectations. Odds are, you will be noticed, they'll know you have a degree in elec. eng. and say 'well, he has the work ethic and training, lets give him a shot before we put out ads.'

    Also, it sounds to me like you're looking in the wrong places. All those job websites? Last resort for companies. 90% of positions aren't even advertised by the companies looking to fill them. Pick some target companies that you'd like to work for. Do some research. Find out what kind of clients they service. Find out what reputation they have. Find out what kind of people they usually hire. Find out every possible thing you can about these companies, then specifically tailor your resume for each company based on what you learned.

    And, above all else, once you get an interview, don't take the attitude that they're required to hire you. You're a rookie. They're doing you a favor by giving you a chance. You're untested. You have a degree, but that doesn't mean shit other than you can study hard and/or cheat without getting caught.
     
  17. EmiB

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    Wait, if you are from CT gimmie a holler and I see if I can do anything for ya @ my current place of work.
     
  18. McFly

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    It took me over a year to find a job after I graduated with a Mechanical Engineering degree from the UW. I had no related intern or co-op experience and zero connections with friends and family. Then the job I eventually got was in the wireless industry working with mostly electrical eng. Got layed off after 9/11 and it took me 9 months of 4 hours a day looking for a job to find a contracting job on another wireless project. Wanted to be there for only 6 months until I could find something in my field. THREE years later I finally got in with a company I wanted to work for forever (Boeing)

    Now I am not in the position I want here, but it takes time and experience and I am confident other positions will open in the near future. Even though my past expereince was not in my field of study it really did help and I learned an amazing amount in those 4 years in a wild and fast paced industry. I never thought this much patience was needed and it didn't help seeing my other friends get awesome jobs that they love right out of college.

    I am 29 and have 5+ years of work experience but it feels like I just got out of college a little while ago...

    I would only say to hang in there. I don't know where you live but I know for engineering some areas are better than others. If you are open to moving for a little while, maybe consider that. If there is an opportunity that looks good, it might be the opportunity of a lifetime...
     
  19. Jasmine

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    finding a job is never easy........ and what is worse is just because you find a job, doesn't mean you will like it (bad work enviroment, harassment, etc) but too bad we all need a job or we can't pay the bills!

    the process of job searching is very frustrating for some but stressing out will do you no good right now, focus on what you need to do and the right job will come along eventually!, in the meantime stay sane
     
  20. Toasty

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    I think the problem is that he's got a Master's degree with no field experience.

    So employers are probably looking at the resume and thinking, "well, he's got the training but he's got very little experience...he's going to want to get paid a lot, but he's got far less experience then half of our other engineers already working for us"

    I stumbled across situations like this a lot when I used to do the hiring for my last employ. New college grads have high expectations in salary their 1st year out.... it's unusual for that to happen unless you're very lucky or you got great connections.
     
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    Around where I live the job market is pretty shitty. I live in about medium sized city I live about 45 minutes from the biggest tourst mecca of the united states. But the jobs around here are "do you want fries with that?" Are you willing to relocate? I know when I get out of school Im going to have to move to a bigger city to get an job becuase my feild just isnt set up in my town.
     
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    You're scarring me dude. Im finishing my mechanical engineering degree in 2008 (5 year program). The program alternates, 4 months school, 4 months paid co-op. 4 years school and 2 years of co-op work. If you cant get a job, how can I?!:run:
     
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    All my friends who graduated with my degree have had offers from 57k-65k/yr. I'm had one offer 2 months ago for 45k that I turned down :)uh:), but that was only because the average for my degree is ~62k/yr. Looking back I probably should've taken it, but I was only job-hunting for a month when I got that offer and it's below average for someone with even a BSEE degree.

    Is there any shame in going back to that company even though I declined their offer about 2 months ago.:o I know it couldn't hurt but I'd probably just get laughed at.
     
  24. chica&buddies

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    :werd: i'm in a coop position right now (work in a microbiology laboratory for the gov't), and although it's not related to my major, it's still science based. that's definitely a plus. i know for a fact that after i graduate, my current job would hire me on... i have absolutely NO doubt about that.

    my major (forensic science) requires that everyone do a 10 week internship within a crime lab or police department + project within the job before graduating with their degree. now, it's listed as "40 hrs for 10 weeks," but most bust their ass to show everyone that they're competent workers and possess knowledge incredibly important to the department. many have helped solve cold cases, etc. ie that means more like 50-70 hrs per week. more often than not, the students get hired on once the internship is over, and start working once they graduate.

    in addition, my professors/advisors are always posting job openings that are within the area: florida, georgia, etc... i would suggest asking your professors. our program is insanely hard (hardest undergrad in the country, i'd be willing to bet), and he's always getting emails from employers asking if he'd let his students know about their jobs.

    :sad2: and yes, the last thing is networking. :noes: that's how i hope to get my internship.
     
  25. Toasty

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    It depends on which city you're in and what the local job market is like.

    Look at it this way, in my former employ we had top network administrators who were among the best in their field of experience getting paid $25k/year. I almost hurt for them when I later heard how much they were getting paid. Yet the field is so competitive and so saturated that's how it is sometimes.

    On the other side, one of my computer gaming friends worked to clean fish tanks, and one day he gets an offer from a guy who was getting his tank cleaned to work for his company fixing his computers. Now my friend is the only IT guy in this financial company earning six figures along with bonus exceeding $15k each year.

    Some guys just are at the right place at the right time.

    The idea is to start networking while you're in college. The easiest way to get your foot in the door and intern while you're in school and more then likely you'll get hired by that company right after you graduate.

    If you didn't do that you have to take what you got. I worked in a music store my first couple years out of college. It sucked for me then but on the other hand what I learned from doing retail at that time is helping me now in my own business. It didn't hurt my music collection either :)
     

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