How did Neo stop the Sentinels while not connected to the matrix?

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  1. luvmylegend

    luvmylegend Wut?

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    Also, why did he go into a coma? I know this will be explained in Revolutions, but does anybody know for sure?
     
  2. Didact

    Didact I have no idea what I'm doing

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    No one really knows for sure... Have to wait till next month!
     
  3. luvmylegend

    luvmylegend Wut?

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  4. contactone

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    Some people say that he could do it cause he and zion are still in the matrix. It's part of that whole "matrix within a matrix" theory.

    I think it's possible that all AI and robots have a hidden program not allowing them to hurt the one(the anomoly). Kind of how robocop couldn't arrest VP's from the company that made him. Stupid I know
     
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    This is the most plausable explination I have heard so far....

    basically neo can make a connection with the machines without being connected to the matrix, basically a wi-fi access to the machine, similar to a computer that isn't hooked up directly to the cable modem.

    He is in a coma because he is exploring this new type of matrix (this is all the subway stuff in the trailers to Revolutions...)
     
  6. Rownan

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    The best I've heard is that sort of like how Agent Smith is able to exist in both the real world and in the Matrix, a part of Neo's mind has been left behind in the Machine world. And after his meeting with the Architect, he has realized how to access that part of his mind, and so is able to enact a measure of control over the machines.

    Everything is only a theory right now.. We will see on November 5th!
     
  7. BoypussY

    BoypussY game over.

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    zion is the main matrix, the "matrix" we were introduced to in matrix1/2 are the like "a matrix within a matrix".

    think about it in terms of c++.

    zion is a class. the "matrix" is a derived class of the base class.
     
  8. trick

    trick FLOAT like a butterfly and STING like a bee...

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    so are both Agent Smith and Neo real people? or are they just part of the program?
     
  9. selvo

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    This going to confuse the fuck out of the average movie goer.
     
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    IBlame
     
  11. anjego

    anjego Invading your economy!

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    i think that part of neo is leftover in the matrix even though he's unplugged; thus he can manipulate things that are connected to the matrix
     
  12. Redsky

    Redsky Beat the one you love.

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    Another thought is that when he entered smith at the end of 1, they traded code. Smith probably had the ability to control/call/halt the sentinels and thus Neo has that now as well.
     
  13. intellectual property

    intellectual property these pretzels are making me THIRSTY!

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    i think smith (bane) is in a coma because he triggered the emp (remember?)... thus the machine aspect of bane (smith) was affected by the emp. smith becomes part human in his bane persona, and neo becomes part machine by obtaining smith code in their exchange.
     
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    Here is what i think

    Ok, from what we understand, Smith gained the ability to multiply when Neo "entered" into Smith, and destroyed him.

    Now in Reloaded, Smith comes back. Remember the courtyard scene. Smith tried to copy Neo, but failed. I believe, this is where some of Smith's code got copied into Neo.

    There is a time gap between the 1st Matrix move, and Reloaded. At least 7 months i think. If Neo gained some of Smiths code in the 1st Matrix, I'm sure Neo would have found out already. Neo didnt realize something was "different" til after the whole courtyard scene, and got back to the "real world".
     
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    so maybe then neo can multiply himself :eek3:
     
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    anjego Invading your economy!

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    i agree
     
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    But wouldn't this also mean that Morpheus has smith's powers too since he tried to copy into him but got stopped? :dunno:
     
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    Personally I think Neo's trip to see the Architect had more to do with his ability to control the machines than his encounter with Smith..
     
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    Lame. Matrix within a Matrix is lame. :squint:
     
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    Cuz Neo is the One :hs: :dunno:
     
  22. VBGOD

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    We'll soon find out.
     
  23. i AGREE
     
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    I think that when Smith tried to (but failed at) copy himself into Neo, but didnt succeed, Neo got some of his code, and now he can stop or self-destruct Sentinels. In the 1st movie, the agents were able to control the Sentinels ("should I call the attack?"), and now Neo also has that ability. Anyways, not much longer until we find out...
     
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    because he's the one. shit you think you'd know by now.
     

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