How are my numbers? v. grip strength!

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  1. RockDaBoat

    RockDaBoat New Member

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    Deadlift: 352lb

    Squat: 286lb

    Bench: 198 lb... :greddy:

    Where would this place me on experience, am I almost past the noob stage? :coolugh: How do these compare to you guys?

    Anyway, this past weekend I got a new dl max of 352lb, it felt fucking awesome... I go to a gym where deadlifts aren't frowned upon, but because they don't work the beach muscles, they aren't popular. There were people staring at me as if though I were crazy (I know that weight doesn't really stack up against your numbers, but 90% of these peoples muscle mass is on their chest and biceps).

    Anyway, I felt I could have lifted more, but my grip was failing at the end of my last rep. I don't wear gloves, or use chalk etc, should I? And how else can I improve my grip to hit even bigger numbers? Also, should there be such a large gap between my squat (A2G) and deadlift numbers? It seems to me my deadlift is going up and up, but my squat is staying put (along with my shitty bench)... Any ideas?

    All help is appreciated!
     
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    Chalk is your friend if your grip is failing. Shit makes a huge difference.

    My personal opinion of what it takes to make it out of the newb phase is.......

    Bench 225 for reps
    Squat 315 for reps
    Deadlift 405 for reps
     
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    Used a mixed grip if you're not already and get some chalk if your gym allows it.
     
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    I use a mixed grip now, my left palm is facing me, my right palm faces out. Would there be any benefit to switching this mixed grip every now and again?

    I think my gym will be assholes about chalk, would liquid chalk be worth it? Though I might pick up some rock climbing chalk today and see what they say.

    Also, is there a pre-planned way to warm up to a 1RM? I just lift and lift and add more and more weight until I can't lift anymore (fatigue, grip failure, whatever). I think my 1RM may go up more if I stop blowing my wad so early lifting lesser weights...
     
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    Never was a fan of liquid chalk, I just keep my chalk in a plastic container. If you dont want to make a mess, chalk up over the sink in the bath room, then go to town.

    As for doing a 1RM, I do reps of 5 for warmup then triples, then singles.


    135x5
    225x5
    275x3/5
    315x3
    365x1

    etc

    And its good to mix up your grip, hell even double overwould when doing lower weights would help increase grip strength
     
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    Thanks for clearing that up, my "warm-up" (for deadlift anyway) looked something like this:

    10 x 88
    8 x 132
    6 x 176
    5 x 229
    3 x 264
    3 x 308
    1 x 352

    I'll give the real chalk a go, hopefully it adds a couple of lbs to my lift.
     
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    Hood Moses I part the Black Seas...

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    get the fuck out with this kilo shit you fucking canuck, only kilos i deal with are 100% raw cocaine son
     
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    to many reps and take bigger jumps...
     
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    Our numbers are almost the same, although my bench is a little higher, and my squat a little lower.

    I've been changing my grips every workout and I find that has been helping, and if your not doing cleans I suggest starting, they will improve your grip strength like none other.
     
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    I really don't agree with that. I can pull 700+ without straps but cleaning 225 is rough because my form sucks.


    You want a stronger grip? Do tons of back work using nothing but chalk. Also, heavy bar holds help as do heavy high rep DB rows.
     
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    I just think that at our level cleans are a good supplemental grip exercise, everytime after them my grip is weak as shit, but that could just be that im only cleaning like 155 and my grip sucks.

    What about heavy BB shrugs? another exercise that kills my grip
     
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    If he is pulling 350+ I don't think doing cleans with 100-150lbs are going to have much of an impact on his grip strength.

    Heavy BB shurgs will work your grip will. After you do the last set try holding the bar as long as you can.
     
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    ya they kill me, and holding a 45 plate or two with my fingers in between sets also helps
     
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    Do these number look right to everyone else :ugh2:

    Maybe I've been on the bartender work out for too long, I either bench 225 for high reps or 245 for 3x8 but wouldn't/couldn't imagine working for reps with the squat and deadlift numbers above.
     
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    I could pull 500+ when 225x1 was a struggle to bench...:dunno:
     
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    my weakness is the bench
    most ive done is 315x4
    squats: 405x4
    deads: 495x5
     
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    fckn strong :bigthumb:
     
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    I'd say those numbers are pretty well rounded...
     
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    oh shit i just reread the title, i use straps for those 495 deads- does it still count? :o
     
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    wat? harden the fuck up and get a stronger grip.
     
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    I think they may be a bit high but seem about right. Noobs wont be able to touch those weights, typically not even as maxes.
     
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    I always just did pullup hangs to improve grip, just grab like 45lbs and hold onto a pullup bar for say 2mins overhand grip
     
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