Honda people... So an H22A is NEVER supposed to be dropped in a HATCH??!?

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  1. ruffryda1122

    ruffryda1122 Obsessed is a word the lazy use to describe the de

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    I was talking to this dude in california that owns a shop and sells engines..



    He told me that it is absolutely STUPID to EVER put an H22A in a hatchback.. because it weighs the car down in the front so bad.


    wtf? I've heard of people doin that shit before...

    is it THAT bad of an idea? the whole engine and tranny is $1900... a B18 is like $3500!
     
  2. Muricane

    Muricane Active Member

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    I believe you have to move the firewall as well.

    I've seen it before....11sec street civic. :eek3:

    The next year he tubbed it and turned up the boost, 9 sec race civic. :bigthumb:
     
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    you don't need to move the firewall, it'll bolt up with the right mounts but damn its a tight squeeze. it does weigh down the front end though.
     
  5. old_

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    it really dosent handle that bad. if you get the proper suspension setup it isnt a problem
     
  6. 4bangin

    4bangin Ballet of Violence

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    I used to know how much more it weighed than a b18, but I forgot :( You could get a cf hood to kinda even it out some. If you auto-x and stuff I wouldnt recommend it, but otherwise go for it. From what I understand it makes them pretty damn quick even w/ a stock motor. If I had a civic that is what I would do.
     
  7. Sheep

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    good for dragging bad for turning
     
  8. old_

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    it is like 100-200lbs more
     
  9. LEGbEND

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    cf hood = -750lbs
     
  10. There's a civic here in vegas with a H22. He used to be a buddy of mine... (key word, used to be)

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    Best time with a Stock H22 is 13.9.
     
  11. dbman96

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    Yeah, but after you knock off 12 lbs with that CF hood you're right back where you started. :rofl:

    There is also some difficulty if I recall correctly with the axles - the tranny sits out of line with the hubs (either too far forward or back) and this means the CV joints are stressed constantly. Not that anyone who does this really CARES about longevity that much.
     
  12. KoukiS14

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    He's a jackass now, right?
     
  13. turdburglar

    turdburglar chicken curry with naan

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    a&j up here had one in their yellow hatch a while back, now running something else i think.

    dunno why.
     
  14. Negative. Not a jackass. I just don't talk to him anymore.
     
  15. Letifo

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    i'd put a b18 in there before i put an h22 in there. It's much better suited to the frame of the civic. If you want more displacement then go with a b20//b20vtec. The b20 should weigh about the same as a b18 since it's essentially just a bored out b18 (74mm vs. 71mm if i remember right. could be wrong). I think it'd be a hassle to drive around every day, and you'd have to do suspension work to make it manageable.

    I don't think it would end up being thriftier than the b18
     
  16. KoukiS14

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    oh... :o
    well I had a friend like that, but he ended up becoming a child molester.
    same result. . .different. .uhm .. circumstances I guess. . :o
     
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    Putting an H22 in there will give it too much power and twist the frame on takeoff. that's why it's not recommended.
     
  18. Short Bus

    Short Bus Beep beep!

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    Um, stock.

    What was said? $1900 for the engine and transmission? That's not too fucking bad. Spend a few grand more for a turbo setup and just imagine what you could do with it.
     
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    :eek:
     
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    Stock H22 in a hatch should do way better than 13.9
     
  21. viper966

    viper966 Eat a Bag of Dicks

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    2 of my friends have h22a's in their hatches... both of them are highway Killars and turn alllright... but they have the proper suspension
     
  22. Short Bus

    Short Bus Beep beep!

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    Driver?
     
  23. Dumpster_chicken

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    You guys keep talking about proper suspension. Whats "proper" suspension setups? YUou mean like a stiffer spring and shock, polygraphite everything and thicker swaybar, towerbar?
     
  24. JustinZ

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    why would you want to race a honda on a drag strip... japanese cars are all about handeling and precision
     
  25. We're in Las Vegas. Elevation at the track here in the winter time is about 2,300. Summer it goes higher and the humitity can be about 30%. What can I say. Vegas sucks.
     

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