GUN Home defense pistol

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  1. GFlem

    GFlem New Member

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    Good morning, WMD, I'm here to get your opinions on my potential next purchase.

    Let me preface this by saying that, while I know a shotgun is a much more effective and intimidating tool, I've got a Mossberg 500 in hunting dress (which entails magazine plugs and long barrels) and it's unfortunately got to stay that way for the foreseeable future.

    I'm looking for something in .40 S&W, .45 ACP or 9mm (in that order) and under $550. Preferably something full-framed, more than a 10-shot magazine, and with an external safety. I don't mind that it's ugly or etc, and I don't need rails though they would be nice.

    This will not be a carry piece.

    I have been reading reviews on the Taurus PT101/101... basically, a Beretta M9 clone in a better caliber, and they are universally positive, with a mixed bag of "but it's a tauris lol" responses largely buried.

    Other options to present themselves to me thus far include the Beretta PX4 Storm in .45 ACP, the Taurus 24/7 in .40, and potentially the S&W XD40... even though that last one doesn't have an external safety I got the chance to handle one in a local store and loved the ergonomics and how balanced it felt. Bud's Gun Shop has all of these in under 600, though the Beretta is awfully close to that line and actually over it once I factor in cost of transfer to a local FFL.

    At this point I'm basically considering the first Taurus because A) it looks so mad tactikewl, lelel, B) it's in a good caliber, C) the price is amazing, and D) it's got the features that I want.

    Your suggestions are welcome. :bigthumb:
     
  2. cantankerously

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  3. Is there any reason you couldn't pick up another shotgun for HD, rather than modify the one you have set up for hunting? You could easily get one, and set it up for HD and stay within you budget.

    As for the pistol, the overwhelming mood in here would point you towards a Glock for the reasons of reliability, simplicity, cost, and capacity. You said you want a pistol with an external safety though, so you'll either have to drop that requirement or really not consider the Glock. You mentioned the XD as a possibility though, so I figured maybe you'd be open to a Glock.
     
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    Smith & Wesson M&P40 w/ thumb safety

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    I don't know where to get one though. Call www.gandtactical.com
     
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    If you have to have an external safety, the M&P and the XD in .45 ACP both can be had with thumb safeties.
     
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    This is teh smarts.
     
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    This will be cheaper and a better solution. Unlike pistol caliber ammo right now, you are actually able to still find 12ga ammunition for sale.
     
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    Admitted I shouldn't be on OT right now.

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    The XD is made by Springfield Armory and technically does have a external safety in the grip. This might be the best compromise since you already said you liked the way it felt and it does actually have an external safety to qualify on your list.

    However, if you are referring to the S&W M&P40, then the one you probably handled did not have the thumb safety, but as you can see from some of the suggestions above they are available. The models with the thumb safety came out initially with the .45, and have been hard to find in the smaller calibers, but they are out there.
     
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  12. GFlem

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    Yeah meant the Springfield. :wtc:
     
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    While a full auto shotgun would be ridiculously fun, I can't find one in my price range.
     
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    It's not full auto, it's semi.
     
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    LancerV Something Happened OT Supporter

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    Grip safety isnt going to stop a ND, ever hear of an ND when somoene isnt gripping the gun?
     
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    Made by HS, imported by SA.
     
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    this would be an excellent choice.

    also since you seem intent on getting a .40 (I would say 9mm is plenty adaquete, and ammo is cheaper, when you can find it that is) perhaps one of these police trade in glocks would suit you well

    http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=411536395

    http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=411536394

    the new glocks are not out of your price range either

    http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=56866

    this would probably be an excellent gun for you as well
    http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=411536360

    whatever you do, do not, DO NOT get one of these
    http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/13284
    http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=56879
     
  18. kellyclan

    kellyclan She only loves you when she's drunk.

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    If, for some bizarre reason, you have to have the manual safety, my choice would be the M&P.

    If not new, used ones would certainly be within your budget.
     
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    Used XDM in 9mm or 40
    HD Shotgun (just sold my HD shotgun for $200 [Mossberg 500])
    ...picked up the shotgun for $100 originally :eek3:
    Glock 17 :o
     
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    [y]7wg1pFNwTOE[/y]

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    ok.

    that is not a saiga 12.
     
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    :o My bad...didn't read the quoted post was in reference to another post referring to one.
     

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