GUN HK P2000 vs. USP Compact?

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  1. DrewDown

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    I was wondering if you guys had any advice for me. I'm getting my CCW and want something smaller than my 4" XD-9. I've narrowed it down to an H&k but I can't decide which to buy. A local sporting goods store has them both brand new for $739 plus tax.

    I'm 6'5" and am pretty thin if that makes any difference when choosing a carry weapon.

    Here is what I do know. I like the decocker on the USP better. And you can carry it "cocked and locked" unlike the P2000 which has no external safety. But I like the ergonomics of the P2000 slightly better. I heard that the USP Compact doesn't have the mechanical recoil reduction system then the P2000 and full size USP. I'm leaning towards .40 cal S&W. To be honest it's mainly because I don't want my only two handguns to be the same caliber.

    I unfortunately don't have the opportuntity to shoot either one. Neither of the two gun shops that rent have ANY H&K's. Someone told me that the P2000 is a bit "snappy" in .40 cal. Has anyone here shot both of these guns and can tell me which has less recoil? Or if it's bad enough that I would be advised to avoid it altogether in .40 cal.?

    Any input is appreciated. Thanks in advance.
     
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    unless you like the ergonomics better with the USP or you're wanting a .45, I'd go with the P2k/sk over the USPc. The dimensions show a bit wider on the P2k if I remember correctly, but that's only because of the ambi slide release or something like that which makes it seem wider on paper.

    I'm pretty sure you can get P2ks in V1, which would give you the external safety that you seem to want. They come stock in the LEM configuration though.
     
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    I really wanted to avoid the SK because my hands are so big that my pinky hangs off and it just feels really uncomfortable. That same reason would make it easier to conceal though...
     
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    don't have to get the SK, but it's the best for concealment. There is a pinky extension on the mag if I remember correctly (it's been a while).

    Personally, I'm waiting for the HK45 and hoping they come out with an SK version :x:
     
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    P2000sk FTW.
     
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    no p2000's have safeties.
     
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    yeah even with the mag pinky extension it's still not big enough for my big mitts. Do you think the P2000 will be to much of a PITA to conceal?
     
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    I love my brothers P2000 in .40. It has the LEM trigger and I'm really accurate with it. He has no trouble concealing it and he's 5'11". It fit well in my hands too and I'm tall like you (6'6").
     
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    sorry. thought you could get the different variants on the P2ks too.
     
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    All the ones ive seen are either LEM or DA/SA + decocker, with out a safety. I thought that was the main reason people went with USP's over P2000's because you couldnt carry them cocked and locked... :dunno:
     
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    says on the wiki that they can't have an external safety too even if it has a decocker :dunno:

    also, it has a standard rail instead of the HK rail on the USPs, and it has an adjustable backstrap, so you can fit it to your hand better.
     
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    Just looked further on H&K's site and it says no safety even with decocker. I guess Variant 1 is different for the P2000 than for the USP.
     
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    that's how i've always understood it.
     
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    My friend has a P2000SK and it's a sick ass gun. When he slams the decocker its fucking scary that the thing doesn't let a round rip. It's an amazing hand gun.
     
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    I really wanted one, but they don't make them in 10mm or .45 :wtc:
     
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    It's like the holy grail of H&K handguns. :bowdown:
     
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    I dont know why everyone has a hard on for P7's. I think they're ugly and that grip safety looks horrible, not to mention what they sell for.
     
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    they're classics and supposedly one of the most accurate handguns there is. also the squeeze cocking mechanism is very cool.
     
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    Gonna bump this with a few more questions.

    I decided on the P2000 .40 cal. I stopped by the local gun store and they had one in stock. They are the only licensed HK dealer in my city. It was $739, $800 even after taxes. I put it on layaway because they have been selling them so fast and the salesman claimed they are on backorder. This is with 2 12rd magazines and it's SA/DA.

    My questions are: Is there a place online where I can save some money? Usually it's worth it to me to get it same day because I am so impatiant but I'm waiting on my CCW to arrive anyway. Also .40 S&W shouldn't be too much of a handful compared to the 9mm right? Unfortunately No place in town has a single H&K to rent and shoot.

    www.Policeguns.com has them with 3 mags and Night Sights for $699, but they only have DAO and LEM triggers. I'm pretty set on the SA/DA.
    Thanks in advance.
     
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    3 second search turned up this
    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=70545125

    you can do better than 800 if you look around.

    40 isnt a handful, its kind of snappy but not that bad. personally i dont like it much, i'd opt for 9mm. if you want more stopping power dont half ass it, buy 10mm or 45.
     
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    Thanks a lot. If it's brand new do you think I can assume it comes with two magazines, as the local one did? I mean that right there is 30 dollars. That auction is only charging ten bucks shipping. I wonder what my local FFL will charge to transfer. I'll make some calls tomorrow I guess.
     

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