hey I got a question.

Discussion in 'OT Driven' started by Jackman, Jul 14, 2005.

  1. Jackman

    Jackman New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2004
    Messages:
    205
    Likes Received:
    0
    I'm wanting to get a car and I'm wondering what you guys think of a Mitsubishi 3000GT. Please don't hesitate to answer, I really want to know the pros and cons about this car. It's pretty much owning me right now. I've been looking on ebay and they look like they aren't that exspensive. (Parents are willing to get me a car that's around $4000 but I have to go 50/50 with them). If you guys have any tips on using ebay to purchase cars it would be great.

    By the way, I'm 16 and I just got my license.... =\.
     
  2. P07r0457

    P07r0457 New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2004
    Messages:
    28,491
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Southern Oregon
    ugh, another ricer-in-training :ugh:
     
  3. edrox

    edrox A good man, and thorough

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2002
    Messages:
    1,028
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Las Vegas, NV
    3000GT VR-4 is still a bad little car.

    eBay buying tips: Ask a LOT of questions, get a LOT of photos, and whenever possible use an excrow service, Especially if the car is not close enough for you to go see and inspect before buying.
     
  4. Kroze

    Kroze Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2004
    Messages:
    8,370
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    What?
    ebay car buying tips: never buy an older car on ebay.


    unless you can physicall come and test drive the car or are willing to put work into it. never buy a old use car sight-unseen.


    pictures can be deceiving. sellers does not list everything that's wrong with the car. etc...

    seller's description of the car might be different than what you might think it is.

    he might say that the car runs perfect. but he might fail to mention that it shakes/rumble like crazy at idle. sunroof/t-top/convertible might leak, oil leak, burns oil. etc....
     
  5. illeagle94

    illeagle94 New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2004
    Messages:
    7,718
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    New Hampshire
    You won't get a 3000GT VR4 for 4g's. I would no bother. If you're looking for a quick turbo car, try a 1990-1994 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX / Eagle Talon TSi AWD. You should be able to get one for under $4000, which will leave you money to buy goodies/repair the car. :)
     
  6. Jackman

    Jackman New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2004
    Messages:
    205
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trust me I'm not a ricer, I like it fine as stock.

    Thanks guys for the info, I'll keep all of that in mind.
     
  7. huntz0r

    huntz0r New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2005
    Messages:
    15,951
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Charlotte, NC
    You called the VR-4 a "little car" :mamoru:

    I would not buy one. They are extremely complicated cars which means little things break and electrics go haywire all the damn time once they get old (which is to say, now) and will drive you absolutely nuts. Plus they are about as mechanically reliable as the later model turbo/AWD DSMs, which is to say, not very.

    I agree with illeagle94, you might want to check out first gen DSMs. Or something else entirely for that matter.
     
  8. Jackman

    Jackman New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2004
    Messages:
    205
    Likes Received:
    0
    hmmm what about proteges?
     
  9. huntz0r

    huntz0r New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2005
    Messages:
    15,951
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Charlotte, NC
    A Protege would be a great first car actually. I've only driven a 3rd gen, but I'm told the older ones are pretty similar in dynamics. They have low resale value, cheap insurance, are fun to drive and reliable. 4-door utility is nice too.

    They are, of course, not fast :)
     
  10. Jackman

    Jackman New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2004
    Messages:
    205
    Likes Received:
    0
    Screw going fast, I want to live haha.

    What other cars do you/the rest of you recommend?

    edit: no hondas please, especially civics, I see enough of those already. Most of them riced to the max.
     
  11. Jackman

    Jackman New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2004
    Messages:
    205
    Likes Received:
    0
    Thanks. :x:
     
  12. Subie Driver

    Subie Driver Eye see what you did there.

    Joined:
    May 6, 2001
    Messages:
    5,641
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Beaverton, OR
    Maybe a mid-to-late 80's VW Golf or GTI? I had an 85 Golf 2-door, and it was a fun little car. You can probably pick one of those up for way cheap, which will leave you plenty of extra money to fix things and upgrade parts. Just look for one that's been well taken care of. They run forever if hey are taken care of right; mine had about 300k on the stock engine, and all it needed was a headgasket.
     
  13. Team503

    Team503 Guest

    Forget 3000GTs. Overweight POS with no power and it breaks all the time.

    I'd recommend trying to get into something RWD, slow, and cheap, with lots of potential. That way, you can build it up, and as you do, your driving skill will increase at the right pace to match your mods (assuming you have to pay for them yourself).

    FC3S (late 80s Mazda RX-7), S13/S14 (Nissan 240SX 89-95), AE86 (Toyota Corrola), or any other similar vehicle. I'd stay away from the MR2, especially the Turbo - it's midengined, and the handling will bite you in the ass pretty hard.

    If you want to get into cars, the car you need to buy should fit these characteristics:

    RWD > AWD > FWD
    Manual > Auto
    FR > MR > RR (For a beginning driver, anyway)
    Lightweight > Heavy
    Easy to Work On / Cheap to Repair > Not
    Potential > Fast Now

    Remember, driving is a skill that relies on you, not on the car. Make sure you improve the most important part of the equation, YOU, first.
     
  14. Jackman

    Jackman New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2004
    Messages:
    205
    Likes Received:
    0
    Thank you all, I guess I have alot to learn haha.
     
  15. atomic punk

    atomic punk pretty hate machine

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2001
    Messages:
    28,237
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    head wound city, ct
    bg-chassis proteges can be quite fast with a bp-turbo swap.
     
  16. NEGROTIATOR

    NEGROTIATOR New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2005
    Messages:
    21,514
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    San Diego, CA
    mkIII supra. Great platform with plenty of potential and options. you can easily find one for under 4k and still have dough left for parts :wiggle:
     
  17. atomic punk

    atomic punk pretty hate machine

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2001
    Messages:
    28,237
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    head wound city, ct
    like a stronger headgasket :mamoru:
     
  18. bigsakius

    bigsakius New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2005
    Messages:
    95
    Likes Received:
    0
    i say miata, dont knock it till you drive one. That car is a blast and to mod it is soo cheap and fun. Besides its a drop top too and the engine lasts forever
     
  19. huntz0r

    huntz0r New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2005
    Messages:
    15,951
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Charlotte, NC
    Really depends on what you want in a vehicle. $4k gives you lots of options.

    Miatas are some of the most fun cars on earth, $4k will get you a decent '94, but be aware that they only have two seats and very little storage space, that can be a liability in your only car... OTOH, my Miata is my only car and I have few complaints.

    Maybe a more practical sporty coupe? Older 2.2L Celicas are cheap and run forever. A 3rd gen Integra RS should be within reach (Acuras aren't Hondas, right? :x: ) S14 Nissan 240SX although they are getting more expensive thanks to the "omg dorito!" crowd.

    2nd gen Protege, try to find an ES 5-speed. 98-00 Ford Contour with the Zetec 2.0 four.

    Subaru Impreza AWD, especially useful in wagon format.

    Odd as it may sound, Saturn SL2/SW2. Very cheap and rock solid from what I hear. Probably less exciting than the above...

    Nissan Hardbody pickup truck :coolugh:

    The best advice I can give you to narrow things down is just to drive a few cars and get a feel for them. Being 16, getting people to let you drive their cars may be more of a challenge, but you should try to do this with at least two or three different kinds of cars before picking one out, so you will know you're getting something you like.
     
  20. huntz0r

    huntz0r New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2005
    Messages:
    15,951
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Charlotte, NC
    I would agree with all of the above also, except, don't be too quick to count out FWD. In a lightweight car it isn't necessarily such a bad thing, and it is better in some ways for a beginner. Snap oversteer has a high learning curve :hsugh:
     
  21. Jackman

    Jackman New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2004
    Messages:
    205
    Likes Received:
    0
    I have to drive my mom/brothers around because my dad says that they're DEPENDANT on me to drive them around now, so we'll have to scrap out the 2 seaters.

    I don't know why, but my dad won't let me choose cars that are under 1990.
     
  22. Mitchj

    Mitchj OT Supporter

    Joined:
    May 2, 2005
    Messages:
    112,072
    Likes Received:
    78
    MX5 sounds like it suits you perfectly according to Team503's irelivent little information...

    MX5's are good cars, try and find the original incarnation of the 1.6, altho it may be smaller capacity, they are the true mx5 that havnt been bettered. Not high speed, but a blast to drive, to improve your skills, and being a small RWD platform they have potential for modificaton. Cons... practicality, being 2 seat, and a rag top they dont hold much and are easy to be stolen.

    Plus they are/were always a popular tuning car, so they may have been crashed or gutted with mods. vbmenu_register("postmenu_38982156", true);'s
     
  23. atomic punk

    atomic punk pretty hate machine

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2001
    Messages:
    28,237
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    head wound city, ct
    1st gen pro > 2ng gen.

    and you don't want a contour.

    as for the miata, if it has the b6 make sure that the crank snout problem has been addressed. 94-up with the bp would be my choice, but i am somewhat biased ;)
     
  24. Team503

    Team503 Guest

    Irrelevant? Um, how? I agree the Miata is a GREAT car - I've often contemplated picking one up, but I haven't ever gotten around to it. Honestly not sure why I forgot to include it. :)

    And while I'm not counting out FWD, I believe that RWD is inherently superior (as do most engineers and racers). Thus, the low power, RWD recommendation - starting on a stock S13, for example. It's enough to learn how to drive a RWD car, but it doesn't make enough power for power-on oversteer without intentionally invoking it.
     
  25. d0nk3ypunch

    d0nk3ypunch New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2002
    Messages:
    6,635
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Austin TX
    A sentra SE-R is another good option. Very cheap and reliable, and its a pretty fun car even stock.
     

Share This Page