Here's what a natural BB'er told me about bulking

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  1. Wombats Unlimited

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    He said that natural lifters looking to gain mass that do these 4-8 month cycles of bulking and cutting are basically taking 2 steps forward and 1.5 steps back.

    He said that instead of bulking dirty for 8 months and packing on 15lbs of fat, 10lbs of muscle then losing everything except 3-5lbs of lbm and some strength when you cut, a natural lifter should be bulking clean for 4-5 years, no cutting, eating slightly above maintenance and clean and healthy as a lifestyle. He says a natural BBer who does this will be far beyond the same person following the 'fast and dirty' bulk then the drastic cut cycle in terms of lean body mass, not to mention healthier.

    When you throw in drugs to speed up both the bulk and the cut, it becomes worthwhile to do it the other way, but for those of us not taking drugs, this is apparently how we should be thinking. Thoughts?
     
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    I think dirty bulking is retarded period. Whether or not your on some shit.
     
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    i think you should request a ban for yourself
     
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    opinion.
     
  5. damiand

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    im curious myself here, because i been thinking about bulking and thats it... just to see when i stop gainging weight. that is unless i get noticably fat... ala fucking tize or something
     
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    PurEvl going out gassed and not half assed...

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    thats how my friend did it for the most part...he carries 235-240 very lean at 5'8. Hes got his pro card as well in the natural feds. Took him 20 years to get there though :mamoru:
     
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    tize style all the way
     
  8. DatacomGuy

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    I thought this was already understood?

    Or at least how I understood it. I never saw the benefit to dirty bulking and then cutting to lose the fat..
     
  9. PurEvl

    PurEvl going out gassed and not half assed...

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    if your a lazy fuck like f&n then eating whatever you want is the way, there is studies to prove it :rolleyes: I mean look at some of our gurus, there shredded at 20%
     
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    time frames are going to vary clearly. Some people can cut and preserve that muscle mass better than others. A hard gainer on the other hand IS going to have to be dedicated enough to tough it out for years to accomplish his goals.
     
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    :rofl::rofl:
     
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    i agree
     
  13. Zika

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    I agree.

    The elite pro's who do the 8 months bulk route still eat pretty lean even if its there version of dirty.

    On one of Ronnie's vids he goes "Off-season grits, flavoured grits!" Too alot F & N though in off season they replace grits/oatmeal with 4 pop tarts and a bottle of pepsi.

    I'm talking BBers here. Powerlifters want to actually be fat...
     
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    Zika My avatar is still NOT me

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    Please tell me the error of my ways.
     
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    Dongsy Normus fag

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    cause fat, carbs and that shit dont matter at all :rolleyes:
     
  16. Dongsy Normus

    Dongsy Normus fag

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  17. Dongsy Normus

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    :mamoru: too bad you didnt ninja edit that grammar
     
  18. Damnation

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    so you've never seen a "ripped" pl'er?
     
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    that's what i was thinking of :wackit:


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  21. Zika

    Zika My avatar is still NOT me

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    I meant, they want to weigh more because of a simple physics issue. The more they weigh the more weight they can pull because more mass = more force to push the weight.

    Obviously they come in different sizes if they want to meet a specific weight class :dunno:

    I dunno, if im wrong plz tell me im not trying to spout bullshit this is what i genuinely belive :dunno:
     
  22. Dongsy Normus

    Dongsy Normus fag

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    lol my chem teacher is a much smaller version of him, he's aussie though. I :mamoru: everytime i think of the resemblence.

    oh and marzius juices, dont kid yourself
     
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    I've been fine doing just about that. I try to get complex carbs in as much as possible, but I don't really watch my fat intake.
     
  24. Damnation

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    forgot about that :sad2:
     
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    its not that he doesnt anymore (he was banned a few years ago) :mamoru: hes probably on some newer juice they havent been able to detect
     
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