Ok I'm pretty sure what I'm trying to do is simple, but I've been messing with it in Dreamweaver and notepad for the last day and can't get it right. I am seriously annoyed right now. I have all my images and everything ready, but I can't get my site formatted the way I want. Here's the layout I want: I want the entire site to be at a fixed width (say 900 for now) I tried doing it all in one table, but I encountered two problems: 1. On the menu option images on the left side, there were spaces between them, and I don't want spaces. I have borders and everything set to 0. How do I get no space between images stacked vertically? 2. When I would try to add the data for the "info here based on whatever menu option you it would add another column to the right. This confused the hell out of me because in the original table property I set the width to 900. So how is adding another data column extending the table past 900? Isn't the first table value you set absolute for the entire table? How do I force a table to be one width and not change no matter what I do to subsequent rows? Now I'm very confused here because I tried it in w3school's html editor and got basically what I was looking for. But when I try the same thing in Macromedia, I get spaces between my menu buttons. What am I not seeing here? Here's the code I used (for the images I just used an image that was on that site): Code: <table width="900" border="1"> <tr> <td colspan=2> <center>Image.jpg goes here</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="234"><img src="http://www.w3schools.com/images/w3default80.jpg"> <img src="http://www.w3schools.com/images/w3default80.jpg"> <img src="http://www.w3schools.com/images/w3default80.jpg"> <td valign="top">hi I should be on the right </td> </tr> </td> <tr> <td colspan="2">I should be at the bottom footer.jpg </td> </tr> </table> </body> </html> And here's the correct result that I got (notice how there's no spaces between the images): But using that same exact format in my editor and browser puts spaces between the images. What am I doing wrong? Also, how do I eliminate the space between the title image and the first image in my menu? This seems to happen "sometimes" with Macromedia (ie. I preview page in browser and it doesn't have a space, and then I preview it again and there IS a space). Ok, is this possible to do with only one table or should I be adding more? I was thinking like the header gets its own row, then the menu items and info section are two rows, and then the footer is its own row. That's doable, right? I've seen other websites with roughly the same configuration but they have like 20 tables... is that necessary? Thanks.