A&P Help w/ buying glass

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  1. goten2000

    goten2000 Tupac's Son

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    I just ordered a Nikon d90 body, and I need to get a lens for it. I am going to Machu Picchu in Sept and want to know what a good lens would be to take. Could I get a decent, versatile lens for around $500? Any other suggestions?
     
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    ib18-200vr

    :o

    although to be honest...that's probably your best bet for a good all around "walk around tourist lens". It'll cover most scenarios of zoom range you'll want without changing lenses on the body making it less gear you have to carry.
     
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    I would bring something fast, like a 50 1.8 and something wide.
    $500 is pretty iffy to accomodate all that.

    Myself I wouldn't put money into one-time use lenses. I'd bring a G10 and just have some fun there.
     
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    goten2000 Tupac's Son

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    ya i dont want to get anything specific to this trip. i want to get decent glass in general, and figured this would be a good reason to start collecting. i'm looking for one legit lens that i will still be able to use a lot after the trip.
     
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    ya thats some smart thinking there.

    The 18-200 seems like its a good all-purpose lens, but once back home, I wonder if you'd ever really reach for that as your first choice.
    Sackriders & that's-my-only-lens types notwithstanding.

    I like the 50's framing (35 for you) and low bokeh.

    A 50 1.8 is cheap and will deliver some good results. You're on DX, maybe look at the new 35 1.8




    Not sure what you like shooting, people, buildings, things, macros, closeups, scenery, landscapes....what?
     
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    then the 18-200 is NOT the lens you want.

    It makes a decent "tourist" lens because it's less weight to carry than multiple lenses that all do the same thing etc, but it's not going to give you the quality that having a collection of say the 12-24, 24-70, and 70-200 would. The difference is that each of those lenses is 1500+ vs the 18-200 at 600ish. :o

    a 50/1.8 is relatively cheap, the brand new 35/1.8 is also relatively cheap in comparison.
     
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    that's the one...brand new on the market and so far it's gotten some decent reviews.

    that's going to be a semi wide angle...you're not going to get wide angles like a 12-24, but it's wider than a 50mm.

    A 50mm might also be a good suggestion, it's going to run you about 140ish right now or you can sometimes find them used for $75-120.

    Eventually you'll want to get into something that has zoom abilities though and then you're talking big bucks. (or you're looking at fast primes which can also be expensive). The "trifecta" of Nikon lenses is the 12-24/2.8, 24-70/2.8 (or 28-70/2.8) and the 70-200/2.8VR. Start saving your pennies now:o.
     
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    You can do a LOT with a 35 1.8 (a 50mm 'normal' framing)

    ppl think the 18-200 is more 'versatile'.

    Yes, in a sense, its mechanically more versatile, but there a very subtle similar quality to all shots taken with slow consumer zooms, even ones with a fantastically wide focal range such as the 18-200.



    Take the other road.

    It leads to interesting, intriquing, sometimes oddly composed, funky lighting, and playing-with-focus pics.

    Pics that make ppl take a second & third look, or ask, "wait...How did you do that?"


    No one ever asks that of a snapshot.
     
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    fixed

    there is a nikon 12-24/4 for dx tho, but tbh, tokina 11-16 for your uwa would be your best bet
     
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    my bad:o 14-24 :o
     
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    ok, sold on the 35/1.8.

    few questions, 1: what does 'a 50mm 'normal' framing' mean?

    2: what would you recommend as a 2nd lens?
     
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    whats a 'uwa'?
     
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    it means it would be similar to what a 50mm looks like on a film or full frame camera.(a 50mm on a d90 would be more zoomed in, as if it were a 75mm lens)
     
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    ultra wide angle
     
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    the 35/1.8 is a DX lens, meant for crop sensor of a digital camera. Digital cameras all have a crop factor, anywhere from 1.4-1.6 I believe. Multiple that crop factor by the focal length of the lens and this is the "35mm format equivalent".

    so a 35mm DX lens on a crop body with a crop factor of 1.5, will give you the same effect as if someone had a 50mm lens on a film body.
     
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    50FF was called a 'normal' lens because it gives roughly the same perspective as your eyeball. Not wide, not tele. Back in the old days anyways.

    35DX with the 1.5 crop is abt the same as 50ff
     
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    Not to piss in anyones wheaties, but I don't think I've ever read a good review of the 18-200 except for rockwell's site and we all know he likes it. I've read a few reviews were that lens broke new grounds for suckyness.
     
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    Low light situations, and you'll be hate fucking your computer later for not freezing when you clicked "check out." In bright light situations, it's nice and sharp, but even remotely dim lighting, and you'll be waiting eons for it to focus, while your shot slips away.
     

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