Help picking a Processer and MoBo

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  1. Sieg

    Sieg ★★Major League Door Kicker★★

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    Well, my INABILITY to run any games om my computer is really making me mad. I am currently running a 2.0 Celeron (I know it is the problem..) I have 768MB of DDR2700 RAM and a GeForce FX 5200. I know I will need a new Mobo when I get a new processer. What kind of processer do you reccomend and what is a good mobo that will hold all of my ram and cards(3 PCI at the moment). Am I going to probably need a new Power Supply as well?

    Just for information on how bad this celeron is. I am unable to play Unreal 2003 on 640X480 on EVERYTHING lowest. It is still like looking at a flipbook.

    Thank you for the help.
     
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    P07r0457 New Member

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    the chip isn't soo bad... but your video card is killing you.

    I say an AMD Athlon XP 3500+ S939, MSI nForce3/4 mobo, Corsiar 1GB DDR-400 (2x512MB) Dual-Channel, GeForce 6600GT, Fortron/Sparkle PSU.
     
  3. Sieg

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    Well, I put a FX 5950 in and still could do nothing in anything. I have trouble running windows + aim + IE on it. I can't do ANYTHING and I get killer lag, and I know it is not the RAM, because I have had it tested.
     
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    sounds like a drivers issue, then.
     
  5. Goonigoogoo

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    You should never try to run games on celeron, they just don't cut it with todays games, maybe on an RTS game but definetly not FPS'.

    I also recommend the AMD3500+ S939 with the MSI mobo, i have that setup and its running great..... and fast :)
     
  6. SEPHROTH64

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    as for help picking a new mobo, abit is a good choice, tho their support lacks a bit
     
  7. Muchacho_Gasolino

    Muchacho_Gasolino New Member

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    yes, but there is an Athlon XP 32-bit chip

    to the original poster i would ask what you have on your PCI cards and what kind of hard drives you have
     
  8. Sieg

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    both sticks are 2700. I have one stick of 512 and another of 256.
     
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    Sieg ★★Major League Door Kicker★★

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    I have a Firewire PCI card, and my 5.1 surround card.

    I honestly dont know what Harddrive I have, where do I find out?
     
  10. SEPHROTH64

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    gotta open up the computer and look

    i have an Athlon64 3500+ and an abit AV8 and let me tell u its a beast :p
     
  11. Buttcheeks

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    :slap: Ever heard of device manager?
     
  12. Luni420

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    Sounds like driver/other hardware issues.. Your system should have no problems playing games.

    fx5200 is a pos but still.
     
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    dude, it's not the celeron. The celeron is a decent chip.
     
  14. lowfat

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    i agree with it being the videocard. 5200s are pretty damn shitty.
     
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    no doubt its a decent chip, for office/secreterial use, but no way in hell would i recommend a celeron for games, ever.
     
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    The whole FX line was crap, Nvidia redeemed themselves with nice chipsets for the 6XXX series, they did lose a lot of customers to ATI though, including me.
     
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    you just really don't know what you're talking about... A celeron with a 6600GT is gonna out-perform a P4 with an FX5200... The chip is NOT the issue.
     
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    I dunno.. UT is a very processor intensive game, and focuses less on graphics.

    I switched from a athlon 1600+ xp to a 3200+ athlon 64 and the fps increase went from about 20-30 to 40-70 using the same gfx card.
     
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    Hypothetically

    Option 1: P4 2.4Ghz FX5200

    Option 2: 2.4 Celeron with a 6600GT

    I would use Option 1 without hesitation, the Celeron just can't handle today's games.
     
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    I would definitely take the 6600GT... And a year from now you'll definitely agree with that.

    And if it's a CelD, I'd take that over a 2.4b anyway.
     
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    no way in hell i'd take the p4 setup. they wouldn't even compare... the cel/6600GT would WAY out perform the p4/5200 setup in any games.
     
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    I'm sure it would in HL1/CS
     
  23. FreeSpace

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    Another good idea is the A64-3000+ combo, or an AXP-3200+ if you are REALLY cheap. A good card is either the 9700 Pro, or the 6600GT. There is a $40 price difference, but the 6600GT is worth the extra beans.


    An Asus motherboard with the nForce3 chipset or the Via K8T800 Pro is a good bet. The nForce is the better option, but Via has come a LONG way and their new K7/K8 chipsets are VERY good. If you need to save money, get the Via.

    For the K7 platform, get the nForce2 chipset, or the Via KT880. The nForce is a god, the Via is a damn powerful demigod. Both are great, the nForce being just a tad better.

    Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, Soltek, ASRock (Asus value brand), and Epox make VERY good motherboards, especially Asus, ASRock, Gigabyte, and Soltek. Soltek costs less, and is a good option if you don't mind doing tech support over e-mail only. ASRock has no EU support, but I still buy their boards because they never really fail on you.

    There are too many models to list, it's best to to select one that fits your needs.
     
  24. Goonigoogoo

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    Good to see some people agreeing with me. :x:

    To the original poster, your CPU is definetly your bottleneck, although the 5200 is utter crap, you will notice a bigger difference upgrading to a new CPU/MOBO combo than by upgrading your graphics card.

    Oh and to all the haters ... in today's PC world, i would take a graphics card bottleneck over a CPU/MOBO/RAM bottleneck anyday! Some people are running a 1.8ghz 512 mb and a 6800GT or an x800 :ugh: , this was just an example but there are a lot of people like this out there who budget pick mobo/cpu/ram and spend top dollar on a Graphics card, this is the worst thing to do.
     

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