Help me with my diet, Vegetarian die gay, trying to gain

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  1. nebulous

    nebulous all it took was a blow to the head OT Supporter

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    This is what I have mapped out so far. I weigh 190, trying to lose a little bit of a gut and replace it with lean meat. So I am trying to take in around 280g's of protein while just getting by on calories. I’m still in the beginning stages of figuring it out, but here is what I have so far. If you have any good meal ideas, let me know :) BTW, no meat, I am a lacto-ova vegetarian, which means I eat eggs and milk. This is my meal plan, which Ill pretty much use every day, but vary up small things, and maybe vary diner to keep it interresting, lol. Oh, and I am trying to totally eliminate soy for now, because the jury is still out on it causing dudes to grow boobies, but I started to get desperate for ideas around meal 6.


    meal 1 (1 ½ cups of [email protected])+(3 [email protected])+(3/4 Cups [email protected])=40g
    meal 2 (100% On whey shake@ 24, 8 ounces milk@ 10g, 1 egg @ 6g)=40g
    meal 3 (Peanut butter sandwich @ 12 g)+(2 cups of milk @ 20g)+(1/2cup nf [email protected])=39g
    meal 4 (Cottage Cheese/Spinach [email protected])+(2 cups milk @20g)+(1/2pack [email protected])=44g
    meal 5 (1 cup black [email protected])+(2 cups [email protected])+(1cup cooked [email protected])=38g
    meal 6 (2 cups [email protected]) 2 veggie dogs, 1 soy burger, or other variable meal @ 20g)=40ish g
    meal 7 (Optimum Nutrition After Max Protein shake) 40g


    Thats only 270 g's of protein though, so any help or ideas woudl be great :)

    edit: added in half a cup nf yogurt on meal 3, and 1 cup cooked rice on meal 5... So I am now at 280, which is around where I wanted to be. Critique my diet please.. tell me if it looks okay nutritionally to you. I am also taking a multivitamin daily so hopefully I have all my angles covered. I am only relying on soy for 20g of protien daily... how does that sound? Still need to add up the calories so I can see how I need to adjsut the diet.

    looks like its around 4000 calories, which might be just where I want it.
     
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  2. kamiraa

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    extra scoop of protein in your shakes?
     
  3. nebulous

    nebulous all it took was a blow to the head OT Supporter

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    yeah, that would be an easy fix, but I dont want to rely too much on the shakes. Eventually, I'd like to minimize thier use or even get rid of them, but they are jsut so damn usefull. Trying to eat as much real food as possible :hs:
     
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    I would suggest you to rely less on soy especially if it's not fermented. Asian people are supposed to eat a lot of soy (or so some people say) but they really don't eat that much. Focus on tempeh and other fermented soy products at the same time. You could get some egg whites or protein powder in the oats in the morning and eat an egg sandwich later on.

    Adding fish would be a great idea too, even though you don't seem to want to eat it. I can't understand if someone wants to avoid meat but IMO there are no sensible not to eat some type of fish now and then.
     
  5. nebulous

    nebulous all it took was a blow to the head OT Supporter

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    nobody has any other recipes or good ideas? =(
     
  6. nebulous

    nebulous all it took was a blow to the head OT Supporter

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    Ill jsut throw in some yogurt with my pbj...

    Lol... Is there any other vegetarians out their training? What happened to peyomp?
     
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    You're 190lbs, why do you need more than 270g of protein?
     
  8. igo4bmx

    igo4bmx WHAT WHAT WHAT THE FU OT Supporter

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    I used to be lacto-ovo vegetarian actually like you.
    once i stopped my gains were amazing.

    i would suggest just having hard boiled eggs boiled so you always can munch on those and if you're worried pull out the yolk too.

    I used to just eat about 10-12 egg whites a day
     
  9. nebulous

    nebulous all it took was a blow to the head OT Supporter

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    190*1.5=285

    Im a little bit of a newb to this, but I thought that was the formula?
     
  10. nebulous

    nebulous all it took was a blow to the head OT Supporter

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    I think about eating fish all the time, but I am so far into my habit. I have been doing this for over ten years... :hs:
     
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    If it's mainly from animal sources, 1g/lb is fine.
     
  12. erok81

    erok81 All your canyons are belong to me!!

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    I have been vegetarian for the last 20 or so years, but have only lifted seriously for the last 8 months. :rofl: :o

    I get ~40% of my protein from shakes, so I don't know if that will help you since you don't want to get protein from shakes.

    Look into products from Quorn or however that is spelled. It is pretty high in protein and isn't made from soy. They make some pretty good stuff.
     
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    nebulous all it took was a blow to the head OT Supporter

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    I am not adverse to shakes, but I am already useing them for two of my seven meals daily. Anymore would be overkill to me. Plus, that shit is expensive. Eggs on the other hand are relatively cheap. I am drinking an ass load of milk though. I dont know how much I need to worry about calcium build up.
     
  14. cavefish

    cavefish You ain't a crook son, you just a shook one

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    vegetarian die gay?
     
  15. nebulous

    nebulous all it took was a blow to the head OT Supporter

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    Everybody usually comes into these kinds of thread flaming on the veggies. Maybe its a little different on F&N, havent been around long. I was trying to make some prepatory humorous deflections of the anti veggie hate... basically I was unsuccessfull, or it was not needed :hsd:
     
  16. Mitchj

    Mitchj OT Supporter

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    Its 1g per LBS, 1.5 per KG....

    270g of protein is plenty...
     
  17. Mitchj

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    Protein isnt everything, how many carlories is in your diet?
     
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    nebulous all it took was a blow to the head OT Supporter

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    lol. I'm still kinda working out the numbers. I wanted to start with the protien and work out from there.
     
  19. nebulous

    nebulous all it took was a blow to the head OT Supporter

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    see, I keep hearing contradictory things about this. In the sticky I am fairly sure it says 1.5 per pound... I hope somebody sets me straight on this soon.
     
  20. benny196

    benny196 New Member

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    I'll fitday your diet for you, just give me a second.
     
  21. cavefish

    cavefish You ain't a crook son, you just a shook one

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    Ah, well as long as you're not a crazy vegan fuck preaching about the evils of animal products you should be ok. Vegetarians I can understand, hardcore vegans are just off the deep end.
     
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    nebulous all it took was a blow to the head OT Supporter

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    man that site is jacked. It said I was getting 5 g's or protien from two slices of bread.
     
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    It's a ballpark thing... If you have no idea how many cals your getting right now, this will help.
     
  25. Mitchj

    Mitchj OT Supporter

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    Its close enough. There is protein in lots of different types of food, just not high levels of it.
     
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