GUN Help me understand your anti-Obama perspective..

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  1. fr0ng

    fr0ng don't mind me, just passing through

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    I keep hearing how people don't want to vote for obama because he's so anti-gun...well, so what? it's not like he is going to single handedly strike the 2nd amendment down..even if he hates guns..all he has the power to do is to sign a bill into law - that congress makes.

    is this simple 3rd grade concept too much for people to handle, or am i really missing something?

    help me understand your viewpoint.
     
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    You my friend are no God or even near it but I am a DOG and I do bite!
     
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    AHHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAAA!!!!!! That was a pretty jacked up G19.
     
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    You have to realize that congress may or may not be strongly democratic/liberal during the time he is in office. I'm sure several gun laws has reached the desk of Ol' Dubya, bu he vetoed the bill(s). Same cannot be said about Obama.
     
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    THT The easy way is always mined

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    I'm against him not only for his stance of the 2nd but also because his economic policies reek of socialism.
     
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  7. fr0ng

    fr0ng don't mind me, just passing through

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    that is the exact stereotype i think of when i think of gun crew :hs:

    a lot of gun owners seem to lack basic logic.
     
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    Obama is a piece of shit.
     
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    fr0ng don't mind me, just passing through

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    the foundation of your argument is a fallacy.

    you are just guessing because it sounds good to you...unless you can actually show me what gun laws bush vetoed, i dont see much of an argument here :hs:
     
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    fr0ng don't mind me, just passing through

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    such as the health care system? please go into more detail.
     
  12. Paul Revere

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    because there will be a few seats open on SCOTUS, which will go to democrats. Obama is welcome to a new federal assault weapon ban, and with a democratic congress that could become a reality.

    so, no, technically it wont be single handed, but there is no doubt in my mind that he will not stand up for our 2nd amendment rights.
     
  13. fr0ng

    fr0ng don't mind me, just passing through

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    so explain to me all the 'oh i wont vote for obama because he gonna take mah guns away!' crowd to me
     
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    LancerV Something Happened OT Supporter

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    Because its not hard to pass a law that makes them next to impossible to get. Also theres loopholes in the second amend which would make banning weapons kinda easy. IE:Make it where you cant purchase ammo
     
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    fr0ng don't mind me, just passing through

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    yea i agree that he wouldnt stand up for it...but he alone cannot make that decision..congress, lobbyists, the entire industry..i mean, i can imagine him (along with congress and the supreme court) being involved in a law that makes it harder to obtain assault weapons or something...but to completely ban guns is :hsugh:
     
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    fr0ng don't mind me, just passing through

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    and there are also loopholes that allow you to buy weapons from a private party that you normally couldnt get...and a ban on ammo is kinda unrealistic..
     
  17. How about the whole idea of massive tax credits to people who already don't pay federal income taxes? If person A doesn't pay federal income tax, then they get a few credits for things (just like Obama has proposed) then the government writes them a check. Where do you think that money comes from? It is out-and-out redistribution of wealth for no reason other than to make the base more dependent on the democratic party. Who can argue with free money? Certainly not people who didn't earn it in the first place. Go troll somewhere else. DIAC must be missing you.
     
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    what does the term "assault weapon" mean to you?
     
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    Shut the fuck up
     
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    what loop hole is this?

    also, there are already certain types of ammo bans in california, so it IS realistic.
     
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    fr0ng don't mind me, just passing through

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    im not trolling you stupid fuck :ugh:

    do you even understand his tax plans? almost everyone will pay federal income taxes..you will just pay less if you make less than $250k a year. which is most people in this country :hsugh:
     
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    fr0ng don't mind me, just passing through

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    a type of weapon designed for aggressive combat tactics?
     
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    Soybomb New Member

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    Why would I want to vote for someone who either doesn't understand or doesn't respect the core freedoms of our country? I also wouldn't vote for someone who said they wanted more restrictions on freedom of speech even if I didn't think they'd get their way. The completely ignores the chief executives influence on the legislature and his power to appoint supreme court justices.

    Personally there is very little I can find to like about obama. He has shown he won't protect civil liberties, he'll crap on the 2nd, he panders to religion, and his economic policies are bad.

    What is it with forums anyway, is calling everyone retarded always someone's #1 way to try to prove their point?
     
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    fr0ng don't mind me, just passing through

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    i didnt really expect anything else out of your pathetic brain
     
  25. Paul Revere

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    and do you have even the slightest clue to the percent they're used in crime nationwide?

    p.s. your definition is wrong.
     
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