GUN help me put together a hiking/survival kit

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  1. spankaveli

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    help me put together a hunting/hiking/survival kit

    i don't want to go all out, i'd like to spend < 100 total and have what i need. (ammo & mags not included in the 100)

    i haven't bought anything yet so here's my list of "to get"

    compass
    fire starting devices (either flint thing, matches, etc)
    paracord
    wire saw
    mre and/or granola bars
    water
    spare ammo & magazines
    flashlight & spare batteries
    fixed blade knife (kabar) and/or hatchet?
    poncho
    small pop-up tent or maybe a small tarp
    water purification tabs & empty container
    light sticks

    anything else i should add or remove from the kit? it'd stay in my car and then go with me in the woods when i go hunting or hiking if i feel so inclined.

    this is not some bullshit shtf/teotwawki crap, just something simple to keep me alive and sheltered if necessary
     
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    hmm, iodine tablets?
     
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    those are for water purification, right?
     
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    poncho, good hatchet, surplus mess kit you can use to heat things over the fire, canteen/camelback
     
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    whats the different between a poncho and a parka? :o
    hatchets a good idea, should i get that over the wire saw?
    i have a couple canteens :cool:
     
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    I would go with both the wire saw doesnt take up much space. Poncho is just to keep you dry, parka is a heavy jacket.
     
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    entrenching tool can be handy to for setting up campfire and bathroom.
     
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    gotcha :cool:
     
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    BigBadJohn Pay-back time OT Supporter

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    Might wanna get in touch with vermicelli on that one. I think he has some bugout bags already put together
     
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    Thunderbear Yggdrasil's Forester.

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    I swear to God every time I see that fucking end of the world acronym I want to stab people over the internet.

    Anyway, the survival kit should be small, and what you're talking about is going to be fairly big.

    I would list the core items such:

    Water Filter. Katadyn makes a very good model called the Backpacker.
    Fixed blade. Big and heavy, able to be used as an axe for small trees. I like KaBARs.
    Firestarter. Make up your own mind if you're comfortable with a lighter, or proficient enough with a striker.
    Food items: I like MRE main dinners, since they pack well and last forever. I liberated quite a few over my years in the Corps, so I have a stash.
    Light. I'd recommend an LED headlamp. Last forever, and easy on the batteries. Leaves your hands free, too.
    For shelter/sleep duty, the milspec poncho and poncho liner cannot be beat. String up the poncho for shelter, fold in liner and you have an instant sleeping bag. I'd stack two ponchos and then a liner and roll them up. Small roll that takes up little space.
    Paracord. You can't have enough.
    First aid kit. add a trauma dressing and some good sized bandages.

    All of that should fit into and on an average sized Camelbak, and won't weigh a ton. You want something easy to grab on your way out somewhere.

    Edit: I left off the carry weapon and spare ammo, since the only time it shouldn't be on your body is when you're in the shower...
     
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    Thats why I put in that disclaimer. I hate it too. :o
     
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    Aequitas If it keeps on raining, levee's going to break.

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    Package of dehydrated dog food if this is like a short time survival kit. You never want to pack food that you like to eat, otherwise as soon as you get hungry you're going to eat it. With dog food, you're only going to eat it when you really need it.
     
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    I use 3 bags. 1 stays in the truck, 1 stays in the closet until winter hits, then it too goes to the truck and a 3rd I carry all the time for daily use crap but can also toss stuff into it.

    I make my kits for varying degrees of need from a simple power outage that could last a few days to a major storm (blizzards or flash flooding) to a problem where it's time to head out (forest fires and worse). So my packs are big. I have used them often though. I worked up at Tahoe when I was a cop and on a few occasions while driving to or from work, a blizzard closed the roads, so being stuck on a mountain road for a couple days is not that uncommon.

    Here's the list I use. And yea, it's alot but again, it's in 3 different bags for the situation needed. (and again, yes, I have actually used most of these things at one time or another)

    CARRIER
    Maxpidition Jumbo
    Backpack
    Duffel bag/Trunk of car

    LIGHT
    Flashlight
    Batteries
    Lightsticks, chemical
    MEDICAL
    First Aid Kit
    superglue

    PERSONAL CARE
    Sunscreen
    Insect Repellant
    Soap
    Toilet Paper
    Chap Stick
    Toothbrush
    Goggles
    Handwipes
    Towel
    survival manual

    FIRE
    Matches
    Magnifying Glass
    Candles
    Lighter
    Firestarters

    SHELTER
    Sleeping bag
    facemask
    Boonie hat
    Coat
    Clothes
    Space Blanket
    Rain Gear/poncho
    Boots
    Socks
    Gloves
    Tarp
    Tent
    Heat Packs

    WATER
    Plastic Bags, trash
    Canteen
    Clear Plastic Sheet
    Plastic Bags, ziplok
    Rubber Hose/siphon
    Water Purification Tabs
    Water Purifier Straws
    Collapsible water container

    FOOD
    Rations
    Pocket Fisherman
    Utensils
    canteen cup
    Sterno
    Folding Stove
    Can opener

    TOOLS
    Knife, Fixed Blade
    Knife, Folding Blade
    Knife Sharpener
    Sewing Kit
    Hatchet
    Saw, Flexible
    Multi-tool
    Folding shovel

    MATERIALS/CORDAGE
    Para Cord, 200'
    Duct Tape
    bungee cords

    TRAVEL
    Compass
    Topo maps

    RESCUE
    Mirror
    Whistle

    COMMUNICATION
    Radio, AM/FM

    Ammo
    100 rounds 45
    400 rounds .223
     
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    Probably handle the wet conditions better than the stacked leather handle I have. I don't know about the serrations on a survival knife, though.
     
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    you can never go wrong with Kabar. :)
     
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    So all of that is spread over the three various bags, right? I'd be more curious to see the loadout for each bag, and which one stays with you most.

    I have just about everything you have listed, but it's in the Jeep, not a bag.
     
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    I am going to put everything back together here in a week so will get pics. I stripped it down from last winter and when I went overseas. Just got everything back and have to pack it all back up.

    The maxpedition jumbo is always with me because I use it to carry daily shit like a leatherman, mp3 player, flashlight, pistol and mags, cellphone, digital cam, water bottle and cables for the electronics. I used to use Maxpedition's laptop case that has the built in holster but I don't carry the laptop around as much anymore. The backpack is a huge hiking model so it carries most everything else except the tent, sleeping bag and ammo but I can strap those onto it in a pinch.

    Oh, forgot about showshoes. I need to replace my old set too.
     
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    this is what I have so far on my list:

    kabar - http://www.knifecenter.com/kc_new/store_detail.html?s=KA1212
    wire saw - http://www.bestglide.com/Wire_Saw_Info.html
    razor knife - http://www.bestglide.com/utility_razor_knife.html
    folding saw - http://cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templ...cts&Ntx=mode+matchall&Nty=1&Ntt=saw&noImage=0
    whistle - http://www.bestglide.com/nato_distress_whistle.html
    paracord - http://www.bestglide.com/550_cord_info.html
    compass - http://www.bestglide.com/bcb_explorer_info.html
    fire starting - http://www.bestglide.com/Lifeboat_Matches_Info.html
    nutrition - Canned Foods from Local Grocery Store or MREs online? P38 can openers
    water - water purification tabs & canteen pre-filled
    flashlight - Fenix L2T or Surefire 9P? Probably fenix since it takes AA
    poncho - milsurp
    light sticks - ebay?
    signal mirror - http://www.bestglide.com/maydaysignal_mirror_info.html

    would an alicepack be big enough to hold this stuff or should i get another sort of bag?

    anything i should add/remove? i don't want anything too big since i'll be taking it in the woods for hunts. i suppose i need to find a decent first aid kit. oh, and a multi-tool will go in there but i already have one so no need to list it.
     
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    I think canned foods would be way too heavy to carry around. Remember to get something that's nutritious, but don't look for stuff you love to eat. I was serious about the dog food. In a survival kit you aren't going to be able to carry too much food so you want to conserve what you have. If you don't want to do dog food, at least get something that'd be the last on your list of foods you like to eat.
     
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    well first off, what is the pack specifically for? what kind of woods and how far from civilization? How long in time are your hikes or trips? lastly, weather conditions?
    for nutrition, cans and MREs are big and heavy. I like the simple 2400 or 3600 calorie bars like these, smaller, takes up less space...

    http://www.redesupply.com/catalog/p...d=319&osCsid=f670c70fef9b9cb4ad75f9b0aeca5a1a

    but those aren't real filling like an MRE or Mountain House meal packs.
    http://www.mountainhouse.com/

    A first aid kit is good to have.
     
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    Forget the dog food idea. While it's not really harmful and tastes like crap, it's not designed for humans nutritionally. When you are out hiking and doing alot of physical activity, get something that's designed for human consumption and with enough calories to provide energy.
     
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    oh, and some rope. you know, because Charlie Bronson's always got rope.
     
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    MREs don't last long in high heat if they're in the back of your car all the time.
     

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