A&P Help me make a decision... v.headshotgirlwantsinthefilmnoirgallery...

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  1. jared_IRL

    jared_IRL OT Supporter

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    Ok. I need your input here.

    This girl:

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    Wants very badly to be included in the film noir photo gallery... I'm torn. I'm going to make a pro/con list and I want you to help me out...

    pro's:

    - She's hot/photogenic
    - She's into the idea
    - she has a TON of contacts
    - she'll bring those contacts
    - her man has $$ and will without a doubt buy the print at the gallery.
    - she lives in the area of the gallery, which means so do her friends who would stop in to see my work.
    - a lot of the people already in the shoot are her friends.

    con's

    - The gallery opening is 3 weeks away
    - No ideas for a shot are coming immediately to mind.
    - She's a pain in the ass to schedule
    - Space is limited, meaning i'd have to bump someone else's shot.



    What do you guys think? I know the cons list is shorter, but they're fairly large obstacles, especially the idea for the shot. I had an idea in mind for each and every shot I have in the series, and i'm just not sure what to do with her. I'm sick of using guns and cigarettes as props too...


    So, gimme some input here. Would her potential impact on the draw to the gallery opening be worth re-arranging everything I have in place to get her in? Or do I say fuck it and move on?

    Also, if you have any ideas for a film noir style shot I should use her for, i'm all ears....

    My first idea was something Rita Hayworth like... Maybe like these:

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    But I don't have the setting and location for the last one, and i'm done shooting cigarettes...


    FWIW, here's a link to the series I have, as it stands now:

    http://www.32countiesphoto.com/galleries/noir/
     
  2. f/2.8L

    f/2.8L New Member

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    Seems like the pros outweigh the cons here...

    I'd say do it, and your example ideas would be fine.
     
  3. tetsuo

    tetsuo And shepherds we shall be...

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    :dunno: 3 weeks isn't very long to add to something that major, then again, if the paycheck is worth it...
     
  4. mestizo

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    If you can get another person, I always thought it'd be cool to have a hand reaching out of the shadows (alley, corner) tugging a woman towards the dark as she looks over her shoulder.
     
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    nudes.

    Starting your Postcard tomorrow. :o
     
  6. bwell

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    Yeah I think you should do it.

    Possibly a femme fatale angle?
     
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    i'd do the last and photochop the background in
     
  8. 1992 240SX

    1992 240SX New Member

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    Def. do it, if yours and her schedule work out. There's no real losing by giving it a shot, and think of future business. Something like the first one can very easily be done:

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    Two flashes outside at night, fast shutter speed...make the darkness a "black studio"
     
  9. Wheezer

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    So your two major Cons are: her scheduling and an idea?

    Tell her you'll do it on a set date. If she cannot make that date, then you can't guarantee a spot in the gallery. Let her know that it is a tight deadline to make a major change like that and if she truly wants to be in it then she needs to be flexible with her time.

    As for an idea...I don't know...find an old bus stop or park bench...or an old street lamp. :dunno:
     
  10. ace3

    ace3 mouthify my wang.

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    thats' what i was gonna say.

    tell her you have "this date/time and this date/time open", and that you're "very busy for the next 3 weeks until the gallery opens". if she'll fit your times in, great. if not, it's her fault, not yours.

    she's hot, and i wanna see the pic you end up doing. :o
     
  11. johan

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    I can't see why you wouldn't do it.

    She's coming to you, based on your previous work. That right there should instill confidence, or at least, take the edge off.

    3 weeks is enough to find a loc, come up with 2-3 looks, & do a test shoot.
     
  12. f/2.8L

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    Excellent advice!

    Go with this.
     
  13. Asherman

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    Set up the shoot with a stand-in, and then when your model shows all you'll need to do is sit her down and shoot a series based on your earlier trial runs with the stand-in. That should handle the scheduling difficulties.

    One of the elements to film noir is a sense of anxiety that doom is waiting, hidden in the shadows. Here you have the pretty girl, and shadows you are already good at producing. Work out in advance two or three basic poses.

    One pose might be with her looking up and over her shoulder into the darkness. Light the face through a Venetian blind, with a reflector to softly illuminate the facial features. The darkness of her hair will blend into the dark background, with the focus on her wide-eyed gaze into darkness. Shot from just below eye-level, I think this would fit with your earlier pieces.

    The glamor shot is a nice idea. How about shooting her waist up, looking directly into the lens through a veil of smoke. She might be holding a cigarette holder, and/or a martini glass.

    She looks a little exotic, so perhaps a thin veil over the lower part of her face and some bangles across the forehead. The focus would be the dark pools of her eyes that match the darkness of the background.

    I've seen your work, and can't believe you won't be able to get some usable prints of this model, even with the constraints you mention.
     
  14. xenon supra

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    that umbrella shot is :bowdown:
     
  15. jared_IRL

    jared_IRL OT Supporter

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    Yup, this is why I come here. Thanks. I guess my brain is already just about fried with everything else going on, and was kinda looking to lighten the load.

    But i'm down with shooting her, gonna work on the scheduling now.

    As for a shot, what are your thoughts on something like this:

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    Think that'll work in the series? Noir enough?

    Any other ideas for me? I could use the help, my brain is full.
     
  16. Zz_3.14_zZ

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    I like that. Something else you could do is have her pose on a bed/chair/couch :dunno:

    But I agree with Wheezer. Tell her that you have a very tight schedule and its going to be hard to make this work if she can't make it then.
     

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