Help me decide on a Mac Pro

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  1. Ty Webb

    Ty Webb You don't have to go to college. This isn't Russia

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    Thoughts? I'm not opposed to honest debate. I'm looking for power and long term reliability. is the DUAL QC THAT much more powerful compared to the Single? I know it can hold a lot more memory, or is that incorrect? Can the Single QC hold more than 8GB but the Apple website is just telling me no?

    EDIT: Priced out a Quad Core
    • One 2.66GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon
    • 8GB (4x2GB)
    • 640GB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s
    • ATI Radeon HD 4870 512MB
    • One 18x SuperDrive
    • Apple Wireless Mighty Mouse
    • Apple Wireless Keyboard (English) and User's Guide
    • AirPort Extreme Wi-Fi Card with 802.11n
    • AppleCare Protection Plan for Mac Pro (w/or w/o Monitor)

      $3,298.00
    Now here is the Dual QC
    • Two 2.26GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon
    • 12GB (6x2GB)
    • 640GB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s
    • ATI Radeon HD 4870 512MB
    • One 18x SuperDrive
    • Apple Wireless Mighty Mouse
    • Apple Wireless Keyboard (English) and User's Guide
    • AirPort Extreme Wi-Fi Card with 802.11n
    • AppleCare Protection Plan for Mac Pro (w/or w/o Display) - Auto-enroll
    $4,148.00
     
  2. DouggieJ

    DouggieJ OT Supporter

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    Unless you're mainly doing a lot of video editing or other highly threadable tasks, the 4 core will probably be actually faster than the 8 due to its higher clock speed.

    To tell you the truth, I'm not really that impressed with the latest generation of Mac Pros. You might want to at least look at refurbished or used ones from the last gen too.
     
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    Wheres a good place to find refurbished ones?
     
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    Raider007 om nom nom nom

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    mac pros will basically last forever...
     
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    bro dont upgrdae ur ram through apple
     
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    This does look like a good deal since it has all that RAM, especially if you can haggle it down a little. But I just wanted to note that this is a first gen special run octocore with 667 MHz FB RAM, not the second gen with 800 MHz FB RAM. The main issue with that is it probably won't be compatible with the newest video cards because it has PCIe 1 not 2.
     
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    It is entirely dependant on usage.

    www.barefeats.com might be useful to you.

    The single QC can use 4GB DIMMs, but they are more expensive.

    http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/memory/Mac-Pro-Memory go here for memory rather than Apple.
     
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    couldn't agree more...
     
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    2.26 Nehalem > 2.8 Harpertown > 3.0 Clovertown
    Meaning the new low end 8 way will beat any previous 8 way of any speed. And solidly.
    The new quad gets close in some circumstances...however you're screwed into paying a fortune to get a lot of RAM for it, which you'll need if you hammer it.

    All that said, I'd probably buy the 8x3 clover listed here if it were me - I own one and love it. And a quad (dual woodcrest) 3.0, and love that too. They won't hang with a new 2.26 (which I use at work) but its still a stupid fast machine. You are more limited in your video choices but the 8800GT is a great card for most purposes, as are the available Radeons. Also, the newer machines have that stupid mini display connector unless you get a 3rd party video card, which sucks. It makes it difficult and/or impossible to run 2 monitors.

    They are fast as shit, however... and this is a sexy thing to see:
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    If you can stomach the cost, and the video card drama doesn't bother you (or you get an aftermarket card that has proper dual DVI), the new 2.26 will be nearly twice as fast as the 3.0 clover listed here, assuming a very heavy load like After Effects. IMO, Buy the one FS here, or buy a new 8 way. Don't buy the quad - you need LOADS of RAM to feed those cores properly and 8 won't be enough for long, if it even is now. More than that will cost you more than the difference to get the 8 way in the first place.
     
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  12. Ty Webb

    Ty Webb You don't have to go to college. This isn't Russia

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    Ty Webb You don't have to go to college. This isn't Russia

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    After much deliberation, I picked up a new Quad Core Mac Pro. 2.66ghz. 8gb ram. Radeon, blah blah. Also picked up a Refurbed 24" HD Cinema display (saved $200)

    Gonna pick up some hard drives and install those too for storage. Any cool tips or tricks with the mac pro?

    I'm excited. Boner time.
     
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    Protip: Shit's fast, enjoy it :big grin:
     
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    Congrats on the purchase, Mac Pro's are just so goddamned fast. I remember when I went from 23fps to 320fps encoding on Handbrake going from my Core 2 Duo iMac to my current 2x2.8 Mac Pro. :rofl:

    Tip:
    1) Buy an Intel X25 solid state drive for your OS/applications drive.
    2) Go ludicrous speed.
     
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    eighteen_psi, where does the 3.0 Clovertown fit in the Mac Pro timeline? Was that the fastest original that used DDR2-667 RAM?
     
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    Yes. Released in April 2007, 8 months after the originals.
     
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    Gotcha. So my 2x2.8 that uses DDR2-800 is the middle child of the Mac Pro family. :wiggle:
     
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    lol yeah. Except we have this weird dynamic now due to Apple switching the pricing mentality where 2008 Mac Pros can be a preferable choice over a 2009 one.
     
  20. Ty Webb

    Ty Webb You don't have to go to college. This isn't Russia

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    First hard laugh i've had on this shitty horrible day. Thank you. Sincerely. :)
     
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    What sucks about the '09's is how Apple changed the way the HDDs/backplane attach to the mainboard and how it pretty much limits you to using Apple's RAID card at the moment. That's one BIG reason I like my '08 and have no itch to move to Nehalem. I needed disk speed much more than CPU power. Hell I'm probably using 25% of my current machine's capabilities, haha.
     
  22. dmora

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    My Mac Pro Dual Core is still crankin like a hoss... i'm just pissed i dont have a real vid card upgrade solution. :wtc:
     

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