Help me build a $1k computer for Vista with 3 monitors and an old printer

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  1. Vatoloco

    Vatoloco In a pinch, though, you could jam it into someone'

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    I want to build it with a Core 2 Quad Q6600. It's really not going to be for gaming but I would still like decent graphics for all the monitors. DirectX 10 would be good.

    Here's what outputs I need:

    3 separate DVI monitors
    PS/2 Keyboard
    PS/2 Mouse
    Parallel Port (Old Laser Printer)
    Serial Port (Flashing FTA boxes)
    Optical S/PDIF (Coaxial would be nice too, but not required)
    Gigabit LAN


    I'm having a bitch of a time putting something together mainly thanks to Vista and the fact that it doesn't support multiple graphics cards unless they use the exact same drivers.
     
  2. Vatoloco

    Vatoloco In a pinch, though, you could jam it into someone'

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    Here's one I came up with:

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    LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner E-IDE/ATAPI $28.99
    Rosewill R5604-TBK 0.8mm ATX Mid Tower $39.99
    Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 500GB SATA HDD $119.99
    2 EVGA 256-P2-N751-TR GeForce 8600GT $219.98 ($109.99 each)
    Rosewill RP550V2-S-SL 550W Power Supply $54.99
    Logitech PS/2 Keyboard Desktop Mouse $14.99
    Rosewill 52-in-1 USB 2.0 Card Reader $9.99
    Koutech Serial/Single Parallel PCI Express (x1) Card $64.99
    2 G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) (PC2 6400) Memory $109.98 ($54.99 each)
    EVGA 122-CK-NF63-TR LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i $159.99
    Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz $279.99
    Subtotal:$1,103.87


    I overshot my $1k budget but oh well. I'm not really sure this will even work anyways. I'm leary about having to add a separate card just to get serial and parallel ports. I've read that they don't always work like the standard ones that use to come on mobo's and it sucks having to use up a PCIEx1 slot. Also, I've heard that most motherboards actually disable all the PCI-E x1 slots if you are using two PCI-E x16 slots. :dunno:
     
  3. Doc Brown

    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    The Rosewill psu will probably get you in trouble before too long.

    You could get Corsair memory for less than that G.Skill.

    There's still motherboards out there that have the parallel and serial ports on them.
    No sense in wasting money on an adaptor.

    If you order your stuff on Black Friday next week, you'll probably find some good deals on some of that stuff.

    And yeah, a lot of motherboards disable the x1 slots if you use both x16 slots.

    The reason is that the second x16 slot runs at x4, and that x4 is shared with the x1 slots.

    Just get a slightly older chipset motherboard that has a few regular pci slots on it.

    That will give you clear usage of the x16 slots.
     
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    Like Doc said, if you can wait a week or two, black friday will have some good deals online and possibly bring around some computer equipment rebates. No use skimping on something if you can wait a week or two and possibly get a better one for free after rebate. Especially with power supplies, there is a good deal on those about once or twice a month if you follow slickdeals.
     
  5. Vatoloco

    Vatoloco In a pinch, though, you could jam it into someone'

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    Thanks for the info. I think that G.Skill RAM is probably my best bang for the buck (at least from reading the reviews on newegg). It is 4 gigs for $109. I'll also look into a better PSU.

    If I can find some self-control and avoid the impulse buy, maybe I'll even hold off a couple weeks on getting everything and look for deals. :)



    It is harder than I thought it would be. I've found these motherboards with parallel and serial ports:

    ASUS P5N32 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131031
    Intel 975X http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121060
    Both of those only have 1066/800MHz FSB though and I'm pretty sure I want at least 1333 so that I an easily overclock the Q6600.

    I thought I had the perfect board in this Gigabyte: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128044
    But after reading the description it disables the 2nd PCI-E x16 slot when you don't run in SLI mode. :mad:
     
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    P07r0457 New Member

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    I don't think black friday will help too much. Honestly, the deals are never really THAT great. It's cheaper stuff to begin with, and once you factor the mahem, it's just not worth it. Good components hardly ever go on sale for BF.
     
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  8. Vatoloco

    Vatoloco In a pinch, though, you could jam it into someone'

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    Look for a 650i SLI board, they have the legacy connectors you're looking for and should be able overclock the Q6600.
    The only problem is the second PCI-E slot will run at 8x instead of 16x in SLI mode, but you have to sacrifice something for triple screens.
     
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    Heres how I did for staying around 1k

    http://secure.newegg.com/Shopping/A...0211066|1,N82E16811119047|1,N82E16827151151|1

    that includes an OEM copy of Vista (I wasnt sure if you needed it or not, if not you save $110)

    Another important thing to remeber when shopping particualry on NewEgg is to look for free shipping and other discounts before pulling the trigger. I picked that case, for example, because it has free shipping right now which saves nearly $20
     
  11. Vatoloco

    Vatoloco In a pinch, though, you could jam it into someone'

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    Looks good. I think I'll probably stay with NVIDIA for the graphics though.

    But that motherboard won't work either. I was hyped about it when I first saw it but after downloading the manual from MSI, no such luck.

    2 PCI Express x16 slots
    a. the second PCI Express x 16 slot (PCI_E4) is a special design
    that supports PCI Express x 8 mode only
    b. these two slots can support SLI technology with PCIE x8 mode
    c. the second PCI Express x 16 slot (PCI_E4) only supports to install
    graphics card in SLI mode

    http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=proddesc&prod_no=1140&maincat_no=1

    If I'm reading it right, it means the 2nd PCI slot can only be used for a graphics card if you use SLI mode and if you use SLI mode, you only get to output to one single monitor.

    It is getting really frustrating trying to find a motherboard with parallel/serial and two PCI-E x16 slots that can function regardless of SLI.
     
  12. Chris

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    Than this non-SLI, you only get 4x on the second slot, but Im pretty sure thats how they all will be

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130097
     
  13. Vatoloco

    Vatoloco In a pinch, though, you could jam it into someone'

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    But then I get back into the whole thing of needing to buy an additional card for serial and parallel ports and hoping it doesn't shut off the x1 slots when you use both the x16's.
     
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    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    The Q6600 only has a 1066 fsb though.
     
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    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    Well you could always put together a server board.

    The Tyan S2895 K8 board has two full 16x slots.
     
  16. Doc Brown

    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    You can expect to see 25% off of even big brands like Seagate on some models.

    Worth waiting a week, if you ask me.
     
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    That should be the least of your concerns, you can (and some say should) the memory synchronously with the FSB giving you plenty of room on the memory clock above the default FSB of 533.
     
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    oh shit, I didnt even realize that didnt have legacy
     
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    I might be late but what about a matrox graphic cards? they're not good for gaming but they have some nice multiple monitor cards. :dunno:
     
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    They are, thats what they used at the place I worked where everyone had triple and quadruple screen setups, but they are mostly all PCI and didnt really have what could be considered 3D capabilities
     
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    oh okay. my friend is still using my old g400 dualhead. :cool:
     
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  23. Vatoloco

    Vatoloco In a pinch, though, you could jam it into someone'

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    I looked into it a little and it seems like the cheapest card was $450 (at least on Newegg). Plus, I want DirectX 10 for some reasona and I don't want to have any issues running Aero and maybe even the occasional game. I'm kind of set on two 8600GT's.
     
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    Vatoloco In a pinch, though, you could jam it into someone'

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    I thought having 1333 fsb made overclocking the Q6600 extremely easy. I had read that you just up the multiplier and you could get 3.0GHz out of it with no problems.



    I'm definitely a completely newbie when it comes to overclocking. I don't really know anything about it other than what I've read hear and there. If I'll still be able to easily overclock the Q6600 with a 1066/800 board, then I have no problem with getting one.

    It is just that I read you could take that G.Skill ram and set the timings at 4-4-4-12 and then up the multiplier on the Q6600 (I can't remember to what) and then you would have a stable 3.0GHz... but it was dependent on having 1333 fsb. :dunno:
     
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    sounds good :cool:
     

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