Head shake w/ Michelin Pilots

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  1. Esp69st

    Esp69st Who's talking about OIL... bitch you cooking

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    how common is this with michelin power pilots all I hear about this tires is nothing but good things.. I already order a set, but I was reading and now I'm thinking about it...

    I head that the tire seats the bike taller therefore it produces for head shake at high speeds....

    true or not...
     
  2. Subie Driver

    Subie Driver Eye see what you did there.

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    A steering damper should take care of any problem with headshake.
     
  3. rider

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    Most tires will have different profiles that affect the geometry of a bike differently. Most of these issues can be easily taken care of with minor tweaks to the suspension. However, I have never heard of this head shake problem with the Michelin Pilot Powers. The most common problem I've heard of this occuring with are the Dunlops 209's. However, with suspension tweaks, many racers swear by them.
     
  4. Esp69st

    Esp69st Who's talking about OIL... bitch you cooking

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    I actually come from dunlops 208's and I used to love them till I crashed at the track... I wanted to try the PP's.

    I just order the Qualifier's instead. since I come from dunlop's. I heard the qualifiers are very similar if not better than the PP's...

    lets see.
     
  5. Bret The Ripper

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    I never had any problem with them. I used them on the track days I went too.
     
  6. 7960

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    were the tires the reason you crashed? if you loved them before it sounds like you might be changing tires for the wrong reason.
     
  7. Buck-O

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    Just go with the Qualifiers.

    The PP have a slightly different feel to them, and are a bit edgier, and provide sharper feedback, and handling.

    But the Qualifier is a bit more neutral, and offeres good solid progressive feedback. Certaintly a HUGE improvment over the 208's.

    I think you would likely be happier with the Qualifiers. Get them first, then if you find them to be still a bit to linier for your liking, give the Powers a try. And if at all possible, ride someone elses bike with the Powers on them, and see what you think.
     
  8. ChatChai

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    don't have pilots but my buddy does and I just asked him and he said no. Then again he does have a steering damper.
     
  9. GCEX

    GCEX Drifting Along

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    I have Pilot Powers now, they replaced a set of 208s. No problems with headshake.
     
  10. Esp69st

    Esp69st Who's talking about OIL... bitch you cooking

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    well I think I was riding harder than my tires could handle. I can't complain I liked them alot. I just purchased a set of Qualifier. I'm putting them on next week.
     
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    I have an RC and had PP I used to have headshake problems until I set up my suspension correctly. Even with stock suspension I can pull the front off come out of a corner and only feel a little twitch. Beware if you do alot of commuting it will square off, I just changed mine out last night because I am going to gingerman on saturday and there was not enough center tread left. Changed the tire and it is more neutral again. It was starting to drop in the corners which I got used to over time(3k miles) Still had great traction to the end, and I was down to the wear bars.
     
  12. cellphone

    cellphone Must not sleep.....

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    Set up your suspension


    on your next trackday try out the ppr.
     
  13. Cachee0

    Cachee0 OT's Technical Recruiter, Send me your resume

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    Qualifiers are my next set of tires
     
  14. BeachBoy

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    I don't know, maybe if you have a 1000cc, but with a 600, before you get to the limit of the PP, you'll have to be frikken fast. i was running 2:10 at thunderhill (A pace) with my R6 on pilot powers, and the tires were really not what was refraining me from going faster.

    i don't know your pace, but IMO pilot powers are great if you also use the bike for street (it has side grooves unlike the D208GP).

    Now I am running pirellis supercorsa pros for the first time tomorrow, I'll see how they handle, but they should be good since they are really a notch over the PP (more equivalent to the pilot power race)
     
  15. NoXeN

    NoXeN You can find me up on one

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    sounds like a suspension or rim issue to me
     
  16. Hapytruck01

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    2003 r6 here no stab. pilots are no problem
     
  17. BeachBoy

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    just to update my last post

    I ran the supercorsa pros yesterday, it's really unbeleivable, but not aimed for the street at all
     
  18. cor

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    I went from 208's a while back to some pilot powers. They had only been good to me. No head shake.

    Sounds like an alignment/balancing issue.
     
  19. Count Nigula

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    Whatever tires you install, make sure you set your suspension for it. No spacific tire will cause headshake.
    I run Pilot Powers at Jennings race track with NO issues whatsoever. I have a 03 GSXR 1000
     
  20. Slick26

    Slick26 Gun|Bike|Cigar|PS3|Beer |Whisky|Night Crew

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    Might depend on bike. Have not heard this as a wide-spread problem.
     
  21. Bugatti

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    Work great.. I'm a pirelli man. As soon as these wear out going back to Italian rubber.
     

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