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  1. hsmith

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    i tumbled my shells today and reloaded 10...

    how "clean" should the insides of the shells be? spotless? a good few are close to perfectly spotless on the inside, many have a bit of burnt powder left, and a few look like below (right being the worst):

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    retumble them?

    then there were ~10 that looked like this and def need to be redone :o

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    should the be tumbled until they are fine in the inside? :hs:
     
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    i just went with soy's "50 cal can" gig, $275 total for everything - i will be upgrading to the 550b in January
     
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    My brass comes out bling bling. What the heck did you tumble iyours with.

    I tumble 1 hour with crushed walnut mixed with (one ounce of 3m finesse it 2 and 1 ounces of water)

    Your looks with you tumbled it with ash from your BBQ
     
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    :rofl: corncob - all they had

    they were out of walnut but should have some in soon

    :wtc:
     
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    yeah i personally would not reload those. Also looks like you deprimed your cases, maybe not can't tell.

    Tumble your brass before you size and deprime.
     
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    nah not deprimed or sized. i'll pickup walnut and redo them all :o
     
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    well, i got a scale, tumbler, and extra stuff that added on a good bit, but i wil lbe using that in the future when i am done with the hand press
     
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    I have reloaded more than thousand rounds that look like your top picture and they all fired okay. Ones that look like your bottom picture, I just scrape the junk out and they all fired ok too.
     
  9. This is what your brass should look like
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    It'll just get dirty inside the next time you fire it anyway, I wouldn't worry as long as the outside is clean.

    (not saying you can't get it better, but I wouldn't sweat it)
     
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    dude, excellent! Well, I'd say go with the pros' advice on cleaning...

    I so need to get one of those can-contained setups.
     
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    While they may reload fine, and maybe even fire fine, it could be very inconsitent.

    Granted I am anal about ammo but that crud is going to throw your case volume off. If there is a lot of crud that could mean over pressure depending on your charge (I load them hot), or it could just be real dirty. Powder doesn't burn completely due to crud, lots of unburnt powder in barrel, blast of crud flakes out the muzzle when fired.

    I've seen a buddy who never changed his media and had really dirty brass on the inside. When he shot a match with it there was all this crud vented with each shot. He did make it though the match but we gave him all kinds of grief. He also junked the match as the ammo was all over the place.

    If your going to make ammo, make good ammo.
     
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    Yar has it spot on. Reloading isn't just about saving money, it's about creating superior ammo. Your deviation will be all over the place and will be inconsistent. Its about getting a consistent burn.

    Use Walnut, don't even mess with corncob media. I would start over with that brass. The reason why you don't want to deprime before tumbling is media will get caught up in the flash pockets.
     
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    jesus christ I learn so much here
     
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    :cool:

    i'll do walnut, i really have no idea - the two people i know that reload are my cousins and they live two states away :o
     
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    yeah i'll get to it when i get to work :cool:
     
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    for rifle cartridges, how do you ensure that all the media is out of the brass? with a "l hook" wire? i know you use that to see if there are cracks inside :noes:
     
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    You don't need to buy it all of course, my total with shipping was approx $360, but that included $70 in bullets and $20 in shipping...


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    587176 1 $45.99 Frankford Arsenal Quick-N-EZ Cas...

    624416 1 $29.99 Lee Hand Press Kit

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    604242 1 $19.99 Frankford Arsenal Electronic Cal...

    487186 1 $17.99 Redding #5 Powder Trickler

    247371 1 $13.29 L.E. Wilson Case Length Gage 45 ACP

    807875 1 $12.99 Lee Auto Prime Hand Priming Tool

    215517 1 $11.99 Frankford Arsenal Impact Bullet ...

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    368157 1 $4.99 Frankford Arsenal Perfect Fit Re...

    616684 1 $3.39 Lee Universal Shellholder #2 (22...

    474897 1 $2.79 Lee Auto Prime Hand Priming Tool...

    467111 1 $2.09 Lee Primer Pocket Cleaner

    856931 1 $0.00 MidwayUSA Retail Master Catalog #31
     
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    I deprime, tumble, then size because the tumbler does a pretty good job cleaning the primer pockets out.
     
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    What you have to worry about is media getting stuck in the primer pocket, or getting stuck in the flash hole. If it does and you don't catch it you could have a round that does not light, or a smushed primer when your reload, or a primer that goes off when you reload.

    Have not had it happen to me yet, but I hear from a few buddies that it scares the crap out of you.

    Now on rifle cases (223) I do size and deprime but I am very careful and inspect every case by hand (when I measure, and trim) to make sure primer pockets/flash holes are clear, and there is no media in the cases. For good measure when I road the cases are resized and deprimed again.

    For those on progressive presses we generally run 2 tool heads. One for case prep (size and deprime), and one for loading (all the other stations). I run a resizing die on both tool heads. Like I said I'm anal about my ammo.
     
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    True, I've had it happen a few times so I always check and keep a thumb tack to punch it out.
     
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    I hate corncob media

    I still have some of this, it does a good job but when its fresh you get a lot of pink residue which is annoying
    http://www.cabelas.com/prod-1/0003078210576a.shtml
     
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    I would assume that sand is too abrasive for cleaning brass? What about tossing just a cup or two in for knocking off the rough stuff?
     

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