MIL Have any of your heard of this new College Option for Army OCS

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  1. Kafka

    Kafka New Member

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    Relatively new program from what I've learned from armyocs.com, came out maybe Nov 09.

    Anyway, if you meet certain requirements, you actually get to "choose" your branch.

    To briefly summarize:

    1. Have a degree from a university from the list (it's basically a top 30 universities list, with a few exceptions)
    2. Have a particular major that "fits" within the branch you want. (for example, political science is a major that 'fits' for MI)
    3. Have a 3.0+ GPA
    4. Need no waivers for anything
    5. Agree to an extra year (so 4 years from commissioning instead of 3).

    Of course all of that is based upon space, qualifications, etc.

    I qualify for a couple of the branches based on my education.

    This is pretty cool stuff, I think this will get a lot of qualified applicants much more interested in the Army vs. other branches. I hate to admit it, but one of the reasons i researched the navy prior to the army was the fact you could be pro-rec'd for particular branches.
     
  2. Kafka

    Kafka New Member

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    Here is the University list:

    4. Applicants with Baccalaureate Degrees from the following colleges/
    universities are eligible for this program:

    a. Brown University
    b. Carnegie Mellon University
    c. Columbia University
    d. Cornell University
    e. Dartmouth College
    f. Georgetown University
    g. Harvard University
    h. Lehigh University
    i. Massachusetts Institute of Technology
    j. New York University
    k. Princeton University
    l. Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
    m. The Johns Hopkins University
    n. Tufts University
    o. University of Pennsylvania
    p. University of Rochester
    q. University of Virginia
    r. Yale University
    s. Duke University
    t. Emory University
    u. Georgia Institute of Technology
    v. Wake Forest University
    w. Case Western Reserve University
    x. Northwestern University
    y. University of Chicago
    z. University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
    aa. University of Michigan
    bb. University of Notre Dame
    cc. University of Wisconsin-Madison
    dd. Vanderbilt University
    ee. Rice University
    ff. Washington University in St. Louis
    gg. California Institute of Technology
    hh. Stanford University
    ii. University of California, Los Angeles
    jj. University of California, Berkeley
    kk. University of Southern California
     
  3. Kafka

    Kafka New Member

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    And here is the Majors list for various branches (btw people are saying the document accidentally reversed the FA majors with the MI majors, I'll talk with my recruiter as to whether that is true).

    5. Applicants with majors or concentrations in the following areas have
    the
    option of selecting the corresponding branch prior to enlistment:

    a. Field Artillery:
    (1) Political Science
    (2) Education
    (3) International Studies
    (4) Organizational Behavior
    (5) Cultural Studies
    (6) Language on Critical Language List*. Please note that
    applicants
    graduating from ANY accredited college and meeting the other criteria
    are
    qualified to enlist under this initiative providing the
    major/concentration was
    in a critical language.

    b. Air Defense
    (1) Aerospace Studies
    (2) Information Technology
    (3) Air Traffic Management
    (4) Aerospace Engineering

    c. Armor
    (1) Engineering
    (2) Physical Sciences
    (3) Technical Management

    d. Engineer
    (1) Any Engineering

    e. Surveillance & Communication
    (1) Engineering
    (2) Physical Sciences
    (3) Technical Management
    (4) Business

    f. Military Police
    (1) Criminology
    (2) Criminal Justice
    (3) Criminal Psychology
    (4) Sociology
    (5) Emergency Management
    (6) Urban Planning and Development
    (7) Forensic Science

    g. Military Intelligence
    (1) Social Science
    (2) Humanities
    (3) Math and Computer Science
    (4) Applied Science
    (5) Natural Science

    h. Finance
    (1) Accounting
    (2) Banking and Finance
    (3) Economics
    (4) Information Systems
    (5) Math

    i. Chemical
    (1) Chemistry
    (2) Biology, Microbiology
    (3) Physical Sciences
    (4) Engineering
    (5) Physics
    (6) Math

    j. Transportation Corps
    (1) Supply Chain, Ops, Distro, Transportation Management
    (2) Information Systems

    k. Ordnance
    (1) Supply Chain, Ops, Distro, Transportation Management
    (2) Information Systems

    l. Quarter Master
    (1) Supply Chain, Ops, Distro, Transportation Management
    (2) Petroleum Engineering
    (3) Geology

    *Critical language list is currently:
    1. Arabic (all dialects)
    2. Chinese (all dialects)
    3. Hausa and all sub-Saharan languages/dialects (except Afrikaans)
    4. Indonesian (all dialects)
    5. Japanese
    6. Korean
    7. Malay and Malaysian languages and dialects
    8. Persian - all dialects including: Dari, Farsi, Tajik
    9. Pashto - all dialects and languages of Afghanistan
    10. Portuguese - all dialects
    11. Russian and Slovak languages
    12. Turkish and languages of Central Asia: Turkmen, Uzbek, Kazakh, Uigur
    13. Urdu, Hindi and languages of the Indian Subcontinent: Punjabi, Bengali, Telegu, Tamil, Sinhalese, and Burmese
    14. Vietnamese, Khmer and Laotian and other SEA dialects
     
  4. RecklessYouth

    RecklessYouth godamnlurker

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    Never heard of this program. Im assuming by "Surveilance and Communication" you meant Signal Corps?
     
  5. Golden89

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    Thats pretty cool, but I know from one of my buddies in my AIT which is 74D (Chemical Corps) and he has a degree in microbiology and he told me that it hasn't helped him in the slightest.
    But that is some pretty good information for any future officers out there.
     
  6. Kafka

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    Ya, I thought I'd post it.

    In fact, it's be great for a sticky if a mod happens to come across this. :hs:
     
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    It would that way anyone on OT if they were thinking about doing something like that can just look up top instead of searching.
     
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    :rofl:
    the Army is truly grabbing at straws here
    not only do you have to attend an uber expensive university (aside from the obvious public unis) and meet other criteria but then you are still subjected to the needs of the Army

    seems like another way to weed people out while attempting to get a 'higher caliber' officer candidate

    edit: goodwork on finding and posting the information though :cool:
     
  9. brackac

    brackac Fuck all of this. OT Supporter

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    Looks like they are tryign to return the officer corps to where it was during WWII. Where the Officer Corps was primarily Ivy League grads.
     
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    hmm good point, didnt think of that...glad i made the cut before they did this transition :eek3:
     
  11. mothafknCHARLIEnshit

    mothafknCHARLIEnshit omghi2u OT Supporter

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    lol, my school is in there, but my gpa isn't, and there is no infantry specific degrees.
     
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    thekinggovernor OT Supporter

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    this isn't new, I talked to the army about this 2-3 years ago. I was covered under U of R. :hs:
     
  13. Kafka

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    ya, i noticed that too. field artillery, mp, and mi are the closest in comparison.


    oh? maybe that was a similar program? the guy who posted this on the armyocs forums is a recruiter - said this was something new
     
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    thekinggovernor OT Supporter

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    no it isn't new, this is a continuation of a program from the last couple of years. :hs:
     
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    I don't think it's weeding out, rather it seems like supplementing.

    As you can see, not all branches have this and in the end, the majority of people can still do really well at OCS and hopefully go where they want to go. I think it's just a way for the Army to grab at other qualified applicants that are looking for a similar "guarantee" that some other branches often provide like the Navy.
     
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    thekinggovernor OT Supporter

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    actually the Navy is the worst. They don't care if your 3.0+ gpa is from your mothers basement or havard, it is all the same to them. Which is incredible bullshit.

    This program understands that certain schools are different from others.
     
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    I hope I don't get shit for this, but in most countries being an officer in the armed forces is a very prestigious position. I want to see that same prestige extended to our own nation.

    I do think programs like this can help the Army's image and I'm all for the image. Americans think our armed forces is for the rejects of the civilian world when they couldn't be more wrong. Sure, there are some retards in the army just like there are in any organization, but there are tons of awesome people serving that have impressive backgrounds too.

    I'm obv speaking from a Californian perspective so my experiences may be different from yours.
     
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    :werd: That is very true.
     
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    Jyokker The trouser snake is very aggressive. It will corn

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    Many other countries do not let their enlisted men make any decisions. They would cringe at letting a weapons system be controlled by an enlisted member. The US puts a lot of trust in her enlisted. I personally have control of millions of dollars of equipment, and there are many other enlisted on this forum whose responsibilities dwarf my own.

    What I would like to see is the politicians' kid as military members. It should be de facto.
     
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    :bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

    There's a difference between citizens and civilians amirite?

    Also, I was wondering if you could sticky this thread as it has a lot of good info for recent graduates considering the armed forces.
     
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    Jyokker The trouser snake is very aggressive. It will corn

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    i am just really bitter that my university is not on there :o
    University of Florida :mamoru::mamoru:


    my OCS class had two Harvard grads..one was a weird social reject and fell off of the radar. The other ended up an infantry officer in Italy and deployed several times
     
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    does this include all of the languages there, there are like a billion, if i brushed up on my shit and learned how to write i could get that shit too lol
     
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    ivy league schools lol

    cornell lol what a joke, i fucking grew up here and 95% of them are :rofl:

    as are 'classes' in most of those languages listed...native speakers are generally 11tybillion times better, the people who learn it don't understand jack shit about the culture generally
     
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    thekinggovernor OT Supporter

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    we are different.

    I have some Peruvian friends that can't believe I enlisted in the Marines. To them enlisted means little to no education and little to no responsibility. Their military (like most countries) is a top heavy organization.

    In our military and especially the Marines responsibility is pushed all the way down to the bottom of the ranks. When I deployed my company had 4 commissioned officers and that was after they bumped us up. Typically we had 1-2 commissioned officers in an infantry company. So it means that NCOs are really NCOs, my last billet was a platoon sgt. so I was in charge of 30 Marines.

    It is a much better system and it fits our country much, much better.
     

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