A&P Hare Scramble pics.........CC......

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  1. Frank N. Beans

    Frank N. Beans I hate BMW's OT Supporter

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    My first time EVER using an external flash, and also my first time shooting a hare scramble. The race was at North Carolina Motorsports Park, in Henderson, North Carolina.

    I shoot MX frequently, but quickly learned that all the 'normal' MX settings are thrown out when shooting in the woods. Its a whole different ballgame, especially when the natural lighting is changing by the minute.

    CC appreciated....

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    The rest can be found here.....
    http://good-times.webshots.com/album/563673759uIlmUk
     
  2. xenon supra

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    They seem kinda out of focus to me, maybe its just me though :dunno:

    good shots though. I'm just being picky.
     
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    #3 is alright. They seem very boring and I know hare scrambles are far from that. I would have panned more and used a much slower shutter speed. The angles are meh as well.
     
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    another vote for iffy focus.

    was the flash camera mounted

    would've been nice to see some riders getting some air
     
  5. Frank N. Beans

    Frank N. Beans I hate BMW's OT Supporter

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    Yeah alot of them are slightly OOF. Between the ultra slow kit lens, and my lack of experience with a flash = oof pics.
    I posted 8, but linked to 277 more. :hsugh: And just to reiterate......it was my first time out with an external flash. Needless to say, it was a learning experience. And I might be wrong, but I don't think a slower shutter and panning would have got any better results with the kit lens.
    Click the link to the other 277 pics for air time photos. :hsd: Not alot of the riders got much air.......there were only 1 or 2 spots, besides the part of the MX track they ran on......to get any air.
     
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    Trust me, I know how to take MX photos buddy. :wavey: Panning would help show how fast they're moving in the tight areas and a slower shutter speed would give some blur in the tires. Yeah, the kit lens isn't the best, but you can still get decent pics with it.

    and the other photos in the gallery are all the same :sad2:
     
  7. Frank N. Beans

    Frank N. Beans I hate BMW's OT Supporter

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    Look at the EXIF info......I don't think I shot more than 1/250. A few times I did drop the shutter speed lower. Panning will not work when you are 3-5 feet from the subject......its going to be blurry just like all of my pics. And even more so with the kit....

    I'm trying to tell you....:hsd:
     
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    sometimes they just don't wanna listen toddster.

    It's the kit lenses fault.
     
  9. Frank N. Beans

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    I forgot we had a bunch of pro's on OT. :mamoru:
     
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    actually, he is a pro. and he shoots motocross. and his shots > yours.

    You should probably try and listen a bit.


    but regardless, you're obviously perfect, right? Thats why you can't take advice?

    kit lens and first time with a flash, and you're telling him...

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    :bowrofl:

    :werd:
     
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    ownage.
     
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    need to PP these suckers man
     
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    just quick ones :o but get in there and dabble around in PS
     
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    just quick ones :o but get in there and dabble around in PS
     
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    Dude, you can't polish a turd. Those "Edited" shots look like complete shit now
     
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    :rofl:

    Not a bad effort, take the advice as just that, guys on OTAP are pretty friendly for a community, most places I frequent will just say "that's shit" but here we will give you pointers to improve. :hs:

    Try to get more square on infront of the riders using a telephoto, for the movement a second curtain sync works well.

    Don't be afraid to get in close.

    Like Toddster, I take a shots of bikes every weekend and there are certain shots that are the money winners everytime.

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    Square on: Long tele, wide open aperture, show the struggle of the rider on the bike or the skill and style.

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    Slow speed sync/dragging the flash: Gives a better sense of speed and excitement.

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    Square
     
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  18. Frank N. Beans

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    I can't deny........shot myself in the foot there. :rofl::rofl:

    I have PP'ed all of them, some slight and some took a little work. I know the WB was off in most of my shots, but that I guess is part of learning.

    I'd have to agree with whoever critisized your hacking of my pics......looks like poop.

    Yeah I feel like I have a pretty good grasp on regular MX......but shooting in the woods with the flash is totally different. XC is a whole lot less predictable than MX.....so getting in close is going to be at your own risk. I got brushed by a bark buster early in the day.....so I decided to keep to myself a little more. :rofl: As for the last pic you posted, I am just not a fan of that.....but to each their own. It does give some sense of speed/motion, but I just don't like it.

    As for bitching about CC, I think more or less a little frustration from what the pics were lacking (versus my expectations) were speaking for me. Don't know anyone that has posted in this thread so far, so I figured it was just somewhat typical OT'ers who knew it all (however I do recognize a couple names).

    I have a grasp on panning too, but from what I experienced this weekend I just can't fathom shooting at an even slower shutter and getting better results. My mindset is having a faster lens and shooting at a higher shutter (or bumping the ISO). I believe I shot at ISO 200 all day.

    So if I were to shoot around 1/125-1/150 or so.....what f-stop? What ISO?
     
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    same rules apply for enduro or "scrambles" as you fucked up yanks call it :hsugh:

    If you were to shoot 1/125th... then you shoot the corresponding aperture and ISO to acheive those speeds... could be ISO1600 at f12 or whatever, there is no right or wrong, it's a number.
     
  20. Frank N. Beans

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    Yeah I fully understand that. I tend to steer away from the higher ISO though........I haven't taken a picture yet above 1600 that wasn't grainy as hell. I know ISO does pixelate, but I've seen other non-pro DSLR's shooting over 3000 and it had less noise than my 30D and 1600. :wtc:
     
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    30D at ISO 1600 is more than useable.
     

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