Hard to get blown

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  1. 8bit

    8bit Member

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    Where is the turbocharger on the domestic scene. Popular at one time, now forgotten, is it time to bring back the blower? Is a new SVO Mustang required? :cool:


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  3. 396Hawk

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    Blowers are back.
     
  4. Ronin

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    the reason its hard for you to get blown is because you drive a car that looks like that
     
  5. August Burns

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    the svo was way ahead of its time.
     
  6. 8bit

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    That's really my point, any current turbo cars are just out, or in planning. It's a technology whose time has come. In the 70s and 80s they lacked the reliability, but that shouldn't be an issue anymore. It's a great way to make big power.
     
  7. deusexaethera

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    Turbocharged cars have historically had a hard time passing emissions tests. America has the most stringent emissions laws in the world. European and Japanese car companies were able to keep developing turbo systems in their domestic markets, whereas Ford/GM/Chrysler didn't have a stable-enough market share in those countries to be able to develop their own turbo systems anywhere but on racetracks, hence they didn't develop them at all.
     
  8. deusexaethera

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    Turbochargers have been around since the early 1800's. They were originally developed to blow air into steam engines' fireboxes. Reliability has never been an issue, only poor craftsmanship.
     
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    That and Japan taxes vehicles based on displacement. So it's better for sales to make a small engine (<2000cc particularly) and force-feed it for a performance application.
     
  10. 8bit

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    True, but GM and Ford had major turbo programs in the 1980s, and were getting results. When the Ford 2.3 Turbo started it only made 132 hp, but by the end of the decade they were matching what the 5.0 could do once fuel injection had been introduced. Similarly the Buick Grand National showed what could be done with a turbo and the old 231 V6. 0-60 in 4.6 seconds was fast in the 1980s, and it's still fast now. With modern fuel injection, emissions control you could get 400 hp from a 3 liter turbo V6, and great CAFE numbers because the engine would be off boost when tested. The evidence is there with the Subaru WRX and Nissan Skyline.
     
  11. deusexaethera

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    They would have to seriously upgrade the strength of the soft engine parts to do that, though. The added heat from a turbo + the added stress of positive air pressure = hoses and seals wear out a lot faster. It's been a problem on VWs for years.

    Not that I disagree with you. Turbocharging is a great way to get the HP of a big engine and the fuel economy of a small engine all in one, but there's always a tradeoff.
     
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    You posted the wrong TTA--that one is a fucking POS 301ci boat anchor.

    You should have posted this:

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    :hs: blown stock 4-banger
     
  14. 8bit

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    And that program of improvement happened. The turbo system on the 1989 TT/A was a development of the system used on the 1978 Turbo Regal & 1980 Turbo Trans Am. A lot of the progress had to do with the lighter aerodynamic bodies of the 80s. Pontiac engineers tested the 1980/81 301 turbo motor in the 1982 3rd gen body and the 0-60 time improved to 6.7 seconds.:cool:

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