hard drive is sucking power or something

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  1. babygodzilla

    babygodzilla I love rice

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    ok SO while i was out of the country my desktop died. power would not turn on. so what's the first thing that comes to mind?

    1) Power supply. Bought a new one, changed it, still broken. Great!
    2) Motherboard. Took out the old one, put in an even OLDER one from a previous comp. STILL DEAD.

    OK now I thought o great BOTH PSU and Motherboard are dead. i needed files from one of the hard drives. I took out the Seagate 200GB and plugged it into another working desktop. Desktop died. WTF?? Took out the hard drive, desktop worked again! Plugged hard drive into an external enclosure, did not work. Plugged in a different HDD into the enclosure, WORKED!

    OK so WTF?? why is the HDD broken like this? it's like it's impeding power or something. another thing is, is there a better way to diagnose this problem?? i took out the power supply and input a new one, took out the mobo and input a new one, only to find out that its the mofo HDD that's broken!!

    now i have a useless new power supply and i dont even feel like rebuilding the old stuff.

    CLIFF: WHAT IS THE QUICKEST WAY TO DIAGNOSE HARDWARE PROBLEMS?!
     
  2. Doc Brown

    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    When you put the hard drive into the other desktop, you probably
    left the jumpers on the old drive set to master.
    You can't boot a pc with both drives set to master.
    Change the old one to cable select or slave.
     
  3. babygodzilla

    babygodzilla I love rice

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    i did that. and the jumper on the HDD had been Slave the whole time, it was never Master, its just for storage, there's no OS in it. did not work. i then changed it to Master and made it the ONLY drive in the desktop. still did not work. didnt work in the enclosure either.

    WHAT IS THE QUICKEST WAY TO DIAGNOSE THIS PROBLEM??
     
  4. Doc Brown

    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    When you plugged it in as the only drive in the desktop, what made you think it wasn't working? It doesn't have an os, correct?
    Did you go into bios then, and see if it showed up correctly?
     
  5. Darketernal

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    If your hard disk is dead, then there's not really a way to diagnose it. I mean you basically came to the conclusion yourself that the failure is coming from there.

    The easiest way to diagnose is something you already did. If you put another harddisk in it and it works, then the other one is dead.
     
  6. babygodzilla

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    ......................

    maybe i was ambiguous. ill clarify: i plugged the HD into 2 desktops and 1 enclosure and all 3 devices DID NOT TURN ON, NO POWER. the HDD, for some reason, was not allowing power to travel into the systems, or so to speak. when i unplug the HDD from the desktops, they turned on again, and when i plugged a different HDD into the enclosure, it also turned on again.
     
  7. Doc Brown

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    whoa :eek3:
     
  8. babygodzilla

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    yea but i mean i had to test the PSU first, then the motherboard, before finally coming to the conclusion that the HDD is the problem.

    how did i test the PSU? input a new one. did i have a new one? no, so i had to buy one. great, now i have a brand new PSU that's useless to me.

    same thing with the motherboard. had to dig up an old mobo from the garage, took out the "broken" one, put in the older one, great! still didnt work.

    my point is, how would hardware experts diagnose a broken system to find out the problem? i did a brute force method of elimination to finally pin it down to the HDD, and that's accompanied by 50% luck too.
     
  9. Doc Brown

    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    There's a lot of things that go on in your noggin when you check out a system.

    Is the hard drive spinning?
    Are you sure it's spinning at full speed?
    Can you hear it kick in while the system is booting up, or is it hanging before it kicks in?
    Are all the fans running properly?
    Do you smell any cooked type of odor?
    Have you swapped out one stick of ram at a time, and made sure the stick that is running is in the first slot?
    Have you pulled both sticks to see if you get beep codes?
    What's going on in your monitor? Do you have a signal?
    Can you get into bios, and see if the hard drive is showing up?
    Have you tried to connect the hard drive with a different power lead?
    Are the jumper settings correct?
    What about the cable, have you tried connecting the drive to both connections on the cable?
    Have you tried a different cable?
    Have you looked to see if maybe you have bent pins on the hard drive?

    That's just off the top of my head.
    If I was elbow deep in a computer, I would probably think of checking some other stuff too.
     
  10. Darketernal

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    Well to put it blunt, it would have been done more or less in the same way.
     
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    yeah see...? brute force... :hs:
     
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    yeah i noe what you're saying. but i think i have a special case since the power won't even turn on...
     
  13. Doc Brown

    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    I know, I was just listing the things I would do to troubleshoot.
    The fact that the drive itself can keep the system from even turning
    on is as strange as I've seen.
    Long story short, unless the data on it is extremely important to you, it's toast.
     

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