GUN Hand Gun crew...a word before buying another gun

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  1. Platinum_Thunder

    Platinum_Thunder Reliability for life and liberty

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    STOP. After this weekend I am a changed man. I took a class and it really opened my eyes. Before I would go to the range and not really screw around but it was basically wasted range time. I would load up some mags, go bang bang bang, whatever, replace the target etc. It became obvious very quickly I did not know how to practice. That's where TRAINING comes into play. Now I know HOW to practice. Bottom line is, if you use your guns for defense, TAKE A FUCKING CLASS. Learn how to shoot and practice, then buy another gun if you must. Don't blow the classes off as a waste of time or money, they are worth every penny. A different gun does not make you a better shooter.

    And for ShackleMeNot...There were like 5 glock at the class and 4 of them had malfunction problems :rofl: My dirty Wilson ran like a champ :noes:
     
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    Vermincelli Banned

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    You hit the nail on the head. People think the gun makes the difference. Glad to see you have found the light :)
     
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    but.....but....i have Desert Eagle .50!! I am invincible!!!!!

    :wtf:

    ;) glad you had fun!
     
  4. GlocksRock

    GlocksRock Glock > You

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    What kind of malfunctions did the glocks have?
     
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    RealFastV6 OMFGh4x0rzZ!!111

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    I did an hour's worth of draw firing at 1, 7 and 15 yds on Sunday. Man was it beautiful out.

    That being said, I still like to buy guns, and you can't stop me. :big grin:
     
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    What sort of class did you take?
     
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    Platinum_Thunder Reliability for life and liberty

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    FTE and one had some feed problems :noes:

    My Wilson has an external and it throws shells halfway across the range :rofl:
     
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    Platinum_Thunder Reliability for life and liberty

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    We did some retention training, we did a LOT of 15+yard.
     
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    RealFastV6 OMFGh4x0rzZ!!111

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    What good is 15+ yard retention training? :rofl:
     
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    Platinum_Thunder Reliability for life and liberty

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    No, I mean we did some retention at 1 yard, but most of our actual shooting was 15+
     
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    RealFastV6 OMFGh4x0rzZ!!111

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    Obviously.

    I setup two targets and practiced my "Collateral Speed Rock". :hsd:
     
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    15+ yards is pretty far for self defense, I figured they would take you on a lot of retention and 10 yards and under stuff. Firing from holster clear
     
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    You forgot to mention the one that had the catastrophic meltdown. I would imagine that it's a bit disconcerting when your G19 breaks in two and falls to the ground. To think I once heard someone say that "All pistols should be a G19". All of those Glocks that failed to run were well maintained too..........
     
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    Platinum_Thunder Reliability for life and liberty

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    Who said it was a self defense class. The effective range of a weapon is set by the skill of the user.
     
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    Platinum_Thunder Reliability for life and liberty

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    :rofl: That was so funny :o
     
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    ShackleMeNot MINDSET

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    Blah blah blah. Look at the training NewJack.

    I see HUNDREDS of pistols every year in classes and Glocks in 9mm are by far the most reliable. Just because you took ONE class your sample size is a little small to extrapolate, don't you think?
     
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    Oh and all defense pistols should be Glock 19's.
     
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    Dude you get a bit too wrapped around the axle about this stuff. No guns are perfect, everyone knows that. It seems like you identify who YOU are as a person with what gun you're carrying, screw that man. It's a tool just like any other tool, not a person to defend so blindly.

    PT may have only been to one class, I myself stopped counting hours long ago. I've seen all types of guns fail, which is why I don't step out and act like one is the best for all purposes. Pointing out the glocks that failed was tounge in cheek on my part. I think that the way you jock up the G19 is setting some people up for failure. But I understand that you either have to tow the line from your boss, or that you just believe every conclusion he comes to. But hey that's how it shakes sometimes dude.
     
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    ShackleMeNot MINDSET

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    Stop calling me Dude.

    Your post can be "tongue and cheek" but my post wasn't? WTF?

    Yeah, I tow the line from my boss. If I have only one original thought today it’s this: Andy, you are an idiot.
     
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    I quoted the wrong post, anyone not more of an idiot than me would've picked that up. Idiot or not I won't go to bed tonight worrying that someone doesn't like what gun I use.
     
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    I can say the same thing. I've taught hundreds of classes and thousands and thousands of pistols used. Using my sample size I can say with experience that Glocks are not as reliable as CZs, Berettas and definately can't touch Rugers. And all of those can't hold a candle to the good old revolvers. But then again over half the problems aren't the guns but the shooters.
     
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    Platinum_Thunder Reliability for life and liberty

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    All the Glocks that had problems WERE G19s :o
     
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    Platinum_Thunder Reliability for life and liberty

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    So now I am discounted just because I have only been to one class but have seen 2 glocks with FTE problems, 1 FTF, and one the whole thing fell apart on the SAME FUCKING DAY :rofl: :rofl:

    Must have been the pollen content in GA that day :noes:
     
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    :noes:
     
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