GYNO question

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  1. Pride43

    Pride43 New Member

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    this prolly has been asked before, but what are some ways to help get rid of gyno? i got 12 percent body fat, and it still sliglhtly sticks out sometimes and looks unproportional? any ideas on what to do to help it
     
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    probably have low test
     
  3. RICK RO$$

    RICK RO$$ Active Member

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    It looks like Sean Taylor weighs 400lbs in your av and thats always bothered me just letting you know
     
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    Anafit manboob kit.
    Many people have seen solid results with minimal side effects. Not to mention you stand to put on some more muscle while on it as well.
     
  5. scent of a wookie

    scent of a wookie OT Supporter

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    even pubertal gyno? I doubt it
     
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    even with pubertal gyno. estrogen is one of the primary causative and maintaining factors in gynecomastia. Adiposity (as relates to A2 proliferation), both local and peripheral is a factor in aromatase production (and thus peripheral and local estrogen production).

    puffy nipples may also require prolactin suppression (prolactin suppression is generally beneficial regardless of etiology), so the addition of cabergoline or similar does not hurt as well and is generally helpful.
     
  7. MagiusX

    MagiusX Don't let the man keep you down

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    Any more info on the Anafit manboob kit? I couldnt get much info from their website, just a tiny picture of two pill bottles.

    I too am plagued by some manboobage. It's beyond frustrating because Im skinny everywhere else. Im tired of wearing baggy shirts!
     
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    Low test doesn't cause gyno.
     
  9. macro

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    yes and no. Low test is often a sign of higher estrogen levels (which are gynecomastia inducing). Low test can also mean low DHT which is another "risk" factor. Having a lower androgen to estrogen ratio can "cause" gynecomastia.
     
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    links?
     
  11. Oh its me 20

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    isn't it still attempting to "spot reduce" fat?
     
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    gyno isn't just fat
     
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    gyno is glandular
     
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    Which is exactly what I said, just with less words.
     
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    moses OMGWTFBBQ

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    details?
     
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    moses OMGWTFBBQ

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    if i'm balding there is a good chance my test is normal? since DHT causes men to bald and all.
     
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    no. you can just be predisposed and/or have higher 5 alpha reductase levels
     
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    hey i got gyno from superdrol. not fat but the gland is swollen and hard. i think it is pretty much scar tissue now. is there anything i can do? will it go down with time? thanks
     
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    AI (aromasin or AIFM)
    AND
    Cabaser

    since you are in iraq, avoid overheating, this causes massive spikes in prolactin (though using cabaser will minimize this)
     
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    well over time will the glands get smaller or is it permanent? i mean once my hormones balance out? i have taken nolva in the past, and it seemed to help a little, but i dont have any more. thanks
     
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    macro, how is this different than nolva? it has been over a year since i got this ,so will it help now? is there any side effects? dose/duration?
     
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    generally you may see some regression, but you usually need some drug treatment (in the case above estrogen and prolactin suppression) or surgery.

    Nolva can actually worsen gynecomastia when progestins are involved. Nolva is not good PCT (since the PH people love to reccomend it) and its really bad PCT when progestins are involved.

    you may want to get your hormone levels checked, just to see where you are currently at T and E wise.
     
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    Nolva is an ER antagonist (though agonist as well) (SERM means selective estrogen receptor modulator- basically its not estrogen and estrogen at the same time depending on the estrogen receptor subtype)

    prolactin is a completely different hormone than estrogen, but they work together in the formation of breast and ductal tissue.

    it will help now, it better to treat immeadiately but it will still help.

    sides are typically low, nausea occurs for some with cabaser. With aifm or aromasin, higher doses will produce dry joints (if they do you are taking too much)

    duration will depend on response
    dose is pretty much the same, especially for aromasin and AIFM

    with cabaser dose is generally a frontload of 1mg for 3-5 days followed by .5mg ED and/or .5mg eod. though you can just run .5mg eod or even eood (if you are planning on using for a while). frontload tends to produce faster results (so most people prefer that).
     
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    Out of interest, is this why my nipples tend to be much more puffy in the sauna or after a hot bath/shower?
     
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    macro -

    are you saying that even if i run cabaser and AIFM i will not be able to completely rid myself of my superdrol induced gyno?
     
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