Gyno B Gone

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  1. Drewski

    Drewski New Member

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    I have it.

    I dont' want it.

    Is there anything I can use beside and exacto knife and the hands of a little child to get rid of it?
     
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    is that some kind of suppository? :mamoru:
     
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    cavefish You ain't a crook son, you just a shook one

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    A lot of people have reported gyno reduction and it disappearing while on Epistane but I dunno if its bullshit or not.

    Go to anabolic minds and read around.
     
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    didn't you say yesterday that was a steriod?

    prefer not to go on if possible
     
  6. cavefish

    cavefish You ain't a crook son, you just a shook one

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    Well its a pretty mild oral that exhibits SERM qualities as well.
     
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    its a double methylated steroid. which generally means very hepatoxic.

    the unmethylated version exhibits those qualities.

    Methylation significantly changes a steroids action, also generally reducing its affinity for the AR. most oral have heavy non genomic effects (mediated through action other than steroid hormones receptors).
     
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    gyno reduction:
    Aromasin or AIFM, letrozole if high level suppression is needed.
    cabaser- prolactin is often a factor, prolactin suppression is often needed for resolution particularly if there is "nipple" puffyness.

    if you have chest fat, Yohimburn ES- though its not a fat melter so you gots to cut the cals :)
     
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    I've seen actual bloodwork from the man, who created epistane. Obviously didn't see any toxicity issues with the product.
     
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    i ordered some AIFM from our board sponsors for some puffy nipples. we'll see how that pans out.
     
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    Well, AIFM doesn't ship to canada :(
     
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    this is a study on the parent compound, whose effects are going to be different.

    2[​IMG] 3[​IMG]-Epithio-5[​IMG]-androstan-17ß-ol in Treatment of Gynecomastia

    OSAHIKO ABE, M.D.1, SOICHI KUMAOKA, M.D.2 and HIROSHI YAMAMOTO, M.D.3

    [SIZE=-1]1 Department of Surgery, National Cancer Center Hospital Tokyo, Japan
    2 Endocrinology Division, National Cancer Center Research Institute Tokyo, Japan
    33 Department of Surgery, National Cancer Center Hospital Tokyo, Japan [/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]Received November 19, 1973; [/SIZE]
    1. 1. The clinical effect of epitiostanol, a new anti-estrogen agent (2[​IMG],3[​IMG]-epithio-5a-androstan-17ß-ol) against gynecomastia was studied in comparison with dromostanolone propionate in fifty-four patients ranging from twenty to fifty years in age without previous history of hormone therapy and with normal liver function. The experiment was performed for eight weeks by double blind methods in three dosage groups, epithiostanol 10 mg, and 20 mg and dromostanolone propionate 50 mg.
    2. 2. Epithiostanol 20 mg was most effective with regards to effect on mass size and tenderness, (effective in 96%, 20/21), followed by 10 mg epitiostanol (effective in 89%, 16/18) and dromostanolone propionate 50 mg (effective in 89%, 16/18) in descending order. No side effects were observed in any of the three groups.
    3. 3. Based on the results of the present study, epitiostanol is concluded to be at least as effective as dromostanolone propionate against gynecomastia and to be safe from the viewpoint of side effects. A satisfactory therapeutical effect on gynecomastia can be expected with a weekly dosage of 20 mg of epitiostanol for an administration period of between five to eight weeks.
    Present Address: Department of Surgery, Keio University Hospital, Shinanomachi, Shin-juku


    basically its about as effective as masteron.

    it is not a SERM, so thats a load of bullshit. Such claims come from people that dont know what they are talking about. It obviously has DHT like binding, which is why masteron is effective.

    NOW, DHT and similar compounds and derivatives DO modulate ER expression but they do not bind to the ER like SERMs.

    again keep in mind that the methylated compound is not going to have the same effects as the parent. But it may have gynecomastia reducing effects. Just wanted to make it clear, cant say that it does not. However for the various reasons listed above wont reccomend it.
     
  14. Marijuanair

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    I got gyno a little while back, and SERMs did nothing. A prolactin antongonist fixed me right up though, like within 24 hours. a few "research chemical" sites have prolactin blockers.
     
  15. Tony Montana

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    gyno is that fat thing inside your nipples right?
     
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    Marijuanair Remember to have your pet spayed or neutered! OT Supporter

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    fixed
     
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    not necessarily fat, and doesn't have to be just "inside your nipples"
     
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    what prolactin blocker did you go with?
     
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    I've used nolva before, but it did nothing
     
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    no. are you?
     
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    wait, youre not asking
     
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    cabaser or bromocriptine are the best, selegiline is another choice (not as potent but has other nootropic benefits)
     
  25. igo4bmx

    igo4bmx WHAT WHAT WHAT THE FU OT Supporter

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    i heard smoking weed does increase estrogen levels temporarily... but i forget where i saw that
     
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