guy in the gym tells me he doesnt work abs or obliques because...

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  1. illmaticnyc

    illmaticnyc New Member

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    he doesnt want his waist to get big :ugh:

    i mean i kinda get WHY he might say this although i feel he is completely wrong.but why dont the abs grow like the rest of our body...get big?
     
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    ignoring the core is only going to set him up for a back injury later
     
  3. PurEvl

    PurEvl going out gassed and not half assed...

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    i never train my obliques with weight..i twist with a pole sometimes...I also do not train my abs with alot of weight.. Your abs and obliques are muscles...they will grow just like other muscles. They will also thicken to a point were you will look foolish with large obliques and narrow lats...just make sure your back is enormous and you will be ok.
     
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    excuse me if i sound really stupid but what about the whole high rep idea that it is hypertrophic and will cause muscles to grow versus going heavy and low rep?
    ive read for instance on tnation that they say to get those hardrock abs you need to go heavy and train with resistance. im so confused
     
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    they do,look at poweerlifters
     
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    I gained 2" in pant size by just adding intense core workouts for about 3 months...
     
  7. PurEvl

    PurEvl going out gassed and not half assed...

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    i find a middle of the row approach is best...i add weight to my crunches and hanging leg raises and i usually only go 10-12 reps. But i dont train them like i would.. say arms or chest
     
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    Maybe he has a lot of expensive suits and doesn't want to have to trash pants that don't fit anymore? it's a legit reason if you've got thousands of dollars in suits/trousers? heh
     
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    Maestro Nobones Great Job! - GLAD DADS CREW

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    well then he should spend his gym fees on manicures and hair creme and leave the lifting weights to people who wanna get big :rant:
     
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  11. valvefloat

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    what was before after waist size. If you went from like a 28 to a 30, I can understand.
     
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    I have completely stopped working my obliques too. I already have a wide enough waste when looked at from the front so that is the last thing I need growing.
     
  13. PurEvl

    PurEvl going out gassed and not half assed...

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    you're smart...i told you this long ago...dont work them
     
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    One of the trainers at the gym competes in Figure.
    Personally I don't think she looks good at all, in terms of symmetry. Wide waist but flat ass. Then she compounds it by doing tons of heavy side bends.
     
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    don't forget about all the people that need abs and obliques to squat and DL. It was limiting my squat not too long ago, and i dont even squat that much :sad2:
     
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    yeah my core is pretty weak. I need to start actually doing some stomach work.
     
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    'stomach' :mamoru: work those organs!
     
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    He probably never works legs either because they're big enough from walking around all day
     
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    I don't think I do enough core workout.

    I run twice a week and then i'll do crunches(~100) and some leg lifts (25) afterwards

    is that enough for my core?? or should I add another day or add weights on those two days?
     
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    You've got to work your core if you don't want to run into back problems, and you've got to work it all, not just your abs. That being said, if you're worried about your waist getting to big, train the obliques moderately. You can build strenght and endurance without adding a lot of size, use common sense and don't use weights, then your waist wont be a problem. Not training your core at all is a sure fire way to get yourself hurt, not to mention that it'll limit you in your other lift. Your core conects everything, and has a roll in almost every lift.

    Body balance is the key, you don't want bulging abs and a meager lower back/obliques, just like you don't want huge bis and no tris, pecs like a side of beef and lats like chicken wings. Not only will you look retarded, you'll eventually hurt yourself while training.
     
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    32-34. I haven't been 28 in a long time :rofl: , In that same time I went from ~16% to 14% bf by a 7 pt caliper test given by the same person each time :dunno:



    edit: not just working my abs, but the entire core like posted above me.
     
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