GUN gun related death statistcal data question

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  1. Paul Revere

    Paul Revere OT Supporter

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    this might be an obscure question, but is there any data that shows the majority of people killed by guns are by family members who just "snap"?

    i was having a debate with my dad and he said that he reads all the time in the newspaper about people who snap and kill their family/others then themselves and I was calling him on it.

    now, i dont want WMD to assume that just because data hasnt been found that its not true (if no data is found, the question remains unanswered), but i'm wondering if there IS information out there that supports the question one way or the other.

    :wavey: thanks guys
     
  2. Pineapple Devil

    Pineapple Devil beat it!

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    i seriously doubt it
     
  3. Keesh

    Keesh New Member

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    Your dad is mad at you and wants to kill you.
     
  4. Paul Revere

    Paul Revere OT Supporter

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    lol. he thinks i want to carry concealed because im paranoid.

    but he loves my AR15 and wants to get 2.

    i really dont get him sometimes :rofl:
     
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    jesus fuck, what is he planning on doing, robbing a bank? No one needs that kind of firepower other than the police.


































    Says the guy that is going to have atleast 7 AKs and 3 ARs by the time he is done.
     
  6. Keesh

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    One for each hand!
     
  7. Paul Revere

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    :mamoru: he just thinks that people who are convicted felons, declared mentally unstable, etc (basically the 12 things on the 4473) shouldn't be able to buy guns.
     
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    Myth: Handguns are 43 times more likely to kill a family
    member than a criminal
    Fact: Of the 43 deaths reported in this flawed study, 37 (86%) were suicides. Other deaths
    involved criminal activity between the family members (drug deals gone bad).98
    Fact: Of the remaining deaths, the deceased family members include felons, drug dealers,
    violent spouses committing assault, and other criminals.99
    Fact: Only 0.1% (1 in a thousand) of the defensive uses of guns results in the death of the
    predator.100 This means you are much more likely to prevent a crime without bloodshed than
    hurt a family member.
     
  9. Paul Revere

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    yeah i saw that, but it didnt name the study and i didnt feel like doing the research last night :o
     
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    I'll look into my copy and see if it's there in the endnotes.
     
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    here's the "43 times more likely" study citation from Gunfacts. I bet you could look it up on NEJM's website (New England Journal of Medicine) and also look around and find Kleck's critique of it somewhere.


    Arthur L. Kellerman, Protection or Peril?: An Analysis of Firearm-Related Deaths in the Home, 314 New Eng. J.
    Med. 1557-60 1986. Kellerman admits that his study did "not include cases in which burglars or intruders are
    wounded or frightened away by the use or display of a firearm." He also admitted his study did not look at situations
    in which intruders "purposely avoided a home known to be armed." This is a classic case of a “study” conducted to
    achieve a desired result. In his critique of this “study”, Gary Kleck notes that the estimation of gun ownership rates
    were “inaccurate” , and that the total population came from a non-random selection of only two cities.
     
  12. Paul Revere

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    :cool:
     
  13. MTech

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    so you're saying he doesn't want you to conceal cause you fit in that category????



    :ugh:
     

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