MIL Guardsman bitches out and runs to Canada v.butthurt

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  1. J

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  2. Cheerio

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    I cant even read the comments at the bottom of the article. This guy is a straight puss. Sounds like he just wanted the benefits without the work. He signed up under the assumption that he would only have to do stuff if foreign troops invaded the US (when will that happen) and to fill sandbags (that might be once every 3-4 years). WTF was this guy looking for anyways? Everyone know the NG is part of the Army. I was told when I sined up that I would see at least 1 deployment maybe 2. Maybe I should run to Canada. Hell I am currently deployed while my state called for help with sandbagging and flood cleanup. Maybe I should go AWOL because my state is more important than the whole country I live in. WTF is up with this guy.
     
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    don't worry, we're kicking out all those scumbags.
     
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    What a little bitch
     
  5. Cheerio

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    That bitch just got turned over to the United States today
     
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    :bowdown: +1 rep canada
     
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    J Active Member

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    looks like Glass is still on the fence for appeal. however, another deserter, Robert Long is getting deported. he would be the first.
     
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    This is a time of war they should just execute him
     
  9. luke2o9

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    Generally I agree and I think his actions were cowardly. But I do remember recruiters telling reservists that they would never deploy and if activated would remain stateside if our country was attacked but this was also before Sept.11th. I think even ABC did a news report about recruiters making empty promises a couple years back, telling all sort of lies.
     
  10. NgrLvr

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    Pre-9/11 the Reserves were a joke and everyone knew it. Anyone that signed up before hand should get some slack. Anyone that signed up after should have to serve.

    Christ anyone that signed up for military service during the Clinton era pretty much knew that they were safe from any real conflict.

    I distinctly remember recruiters of all branches spouting off the "One weekend a month two weeks a year" horse shit pre-911.
     
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    I hope Long will have his forehead branded with C as a coward when he returns to U.S.
     
  12. Jyokker

    Jyokker The trouser snake is very aggressive. It will corn

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    your AV is perfect for this post.
     
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    Hang a big negative on this kid. Deployment/active duty/war zone was ALWAYS part of the possibilities, even back in the stone ages when I signed.

    Perhaps part of the problem is that while the UCMJ allows for massive penalties for turds who suddenly feel they can't do their job, there have been very few to suffer the wrath of said UCMJ. Plus, they get press coverage, which encourages others to decide that their commitment was only valid within the comfy confines of the US of A.
     
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    Indeed.


    Fuck that guy. I'm getting sick of reading about scumbags like him.
     
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    kinda reminds me of "In the Army Now". This kid must have really large pussy lips on his face, because even pauly shore went to war without deserting after his recruiter told him the same thing!
     
  16. Cheerio

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    I swore I seen it on the news on AFN like a week ago
     
  17. LancerV

    LancerV Something Happened OT Supporter

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    Who the hell has she been talking too?
     
  18. PumpScout

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    Ah, justice. Or, would that be "justice, eh?". :rofl: Found this on another forum, and thought I'd pop it in here.

    From Tuesday's Globe and Mail

    July 14, 2008 at 9:48 PM EDT

    VANCOUVER — U.S. army deserter Robin Long is slated to be deported back to his army base in Fort Knox, Ky., Tuesday, which would make him the first resister to the U.S. war effort in Iraq to be sent out of Canada.

    Madam Justice Anne Mactavish of the Federal Court of Canada cleared the way for the deportation late Monday, dismissing a last-ditch attempt to delay the process while the 25-year-old pursued further appeals.

    “I was just shocked at some things in [the] ruling,” Bob Ages, a spokesman for an informal group called Vancouver War Resisters Support Campaign, told reporters outside the courtroom. “It just flies in the face of everything that we and every Canadian know about the reality of what is going on.”

    Mr. Ages said the court misunderstood the situation facing Mr. Long upon his return.


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    United States army deserter Robin Long, 24, is led to an immigration hearing room in Vancouver, BC, October 3, 2007. (Lyle Stafford for the Globe and Mail)


    U.S. deserter wins appeal in fight for refugee status

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    “I do not think there is any doubt someone being up in Canada, and a vocal opponent to the war, will be treated harshly by the American military … there is no question he will be court-martialed and will receive severe punishment.”

    Mr. Long's deportation would be a “terrible precedent for Canada, especially given our history of providing sanctuary for war resisters, over 100,000 draft dodgers and deserters during the Vietnam era,” he said earlier to reporters.

    “This will be the first time Canada played gendarme to the American military,” Mr. Ages said, appealing to Prime Minister Stephen Harper or Immigration Minister Diane Finley to intervene. Members of the support group were to meet at the Peace Arch border crossing this morning to protest the deportation.

    The war resisters support group is aware of about 50 deserters in Canada, Mr. Ages said, although the group has been told that “hundreds” are living underground in Canada.

    Mr. Long, who fled to Ontario in 2005, had signed up to join the U.S. Army in July, 2003. He believed at that time that his country was justified in going to war in Iraq, his lawyer Shepherd Moss said at the court hearing to halt the deportation. Mr. Long intended to train as a tank commander. “He wanted to go to defend his country,” Mr. Moss said.

    His perspective changed while in training at the army base at Fort Knox. After hearing that weapons of mass destruction had not been found in Iraq, Mr. Long thought the U.S. had no reason for being at war. Also, he was troubled by evidence of abuse of Iraqi detainees that came out in May of 2004, Mr. Moss said.

    Mr. Long concluded the abuse was systemic and condoned by the U.S. administration, Mr. Moss said. After some soul-searching, Mr. Long decided he would not go to Iraq and would not participate or be complicit in what he believed were war crimes, the lawyer said.

    Mr. Long fled to Ontario, but moved to B.C. last summer. He sought to be accepted as a refugee in September, 2006. His application for refugee status was denied on Feb. 15, 2007. An application for leave to appeal the decision was turned down.

    In a final attempt to stay in Canada, Mr. Long applied Monday for a stay of the removal order in order to allow him further judicial appeals.

    Mr. Long was not in court for the hearing Monday. He was in custody at a location outside Vancouver after failing on two previous occasions to report to authorities when he was required.

    Caroline Christiaens, a lawyer with the federal Department of Justice, told the court that Mr. Long voluntarily joined the army, was not deployed to Iraq and did not apply to be recognized as a conscientious objector while in the United States.

    No evidence was submitted on what Mr. Long would be required to do in Iraq, whether he could have requested an alternative assignment or even what would happen if he was sent back to the United States, she said.

    If Mr. Long was returned to the United States and prosecuted as a deserter, he would have access to due process in a military court, she added.

    Judge Mactavish said Mr. Long had to provide “clear and non-speculative evidence” that he would suffer irreparable harm if he were not allowed to stay longer in Canada. Mr. Long asserted he would face significant jail time and suffer adverse consequences as a result of a dishonourable discharge from the military.

    The vast majority of American deserters have not been prosecuted for desertion, according to evidence before the court, the judge stated in a four-page decision. About 94 per cent of U.S. deserters from 2002 to 2006 were being dealt with administratively, receiving a less-than-honourable discharge from the military.

    Judge Mactavish also stated that Mr. Long did not provide evidence to show he would be singled out for harsh treatment by the U.S. military because of the publicity associated with case.

    Moreover, the United States has a sophisticated military-justice system that respects the rights of service personnel, she said.

    The court heard that Mr. Long would likely be returned to his army unit, which would mete out whatever punishment he would receive.

    Spokespersons from Citizenship and Immigration Canada did not respond to phone calls late Monday from The Globe and Mail.



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    fucking bullshit
     
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