Gov. Moves To Raise CAFE to 35MPG - Threatens Entire Auto Industry

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  1. LowkeyG

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    "This whole thing has nothing to do with energy policy, CO2 or the environment. This is purely punitive; the 'big business haters' finally giving us our due for decades of 'colluding with oil companies' and 'forcing the U.S. public to buy big SUVs.' Make no mistake: these people hate us and want to inflict pain."
     
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    He is right.
     
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    Meat Popsicle What's that smell? OT Supporter

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    lolz cars and trucks should have the same fuel economy standards :eek5:
     
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    yeah that makes perfect sense
     
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    from autoextremist.com

    Detroit. The proposed fuel economy standards coming in 2020, if locked in, are going to force the auto companies into a front-loaded product development and investment cycle that will leave zero margins for error. We're talking a fundamental transformation of America's vehicle fleet the likes of which has never been seen before. That's why it was so laughable when some Senators suggested last week that if the new standards turned out to be damaging to the industry, they could be "adjusted" at a later date. That's simply untrue - as by then the development funds will have already been committed - and it will be far too late to do anything about it.

    Our "leaders" in Washington. Washington lawmakers are hell-bent on making Detroit "pay" for its transgressions and will stop at nothing to see that their "vision" for our transportation future bears their improbably clueless, reactionary point of view. And if it happens to severely cripple the U.S. auto industry in the process, then, oh well, we'll just build more Starbucks. After all, we're a consumer economy now, so who needs a viable manufacturing sector, right? Right.

    The Auto Pundits. Since Detroit is now officially the National Whipping Boy for all of this country's problems, the fallout is going to be nasty and widespread - on all fronts. The stories in the mainstream media will now pick up the anti-car, anti-Detroit rhetoric emanating from the media on both coasts and beat us to death with this story for the foreseeable future. On top of that, we're faced with the prospect of legions of auto pundits waxing eloquently about how we'll all embrace the "European" vehicle fleet model, as if it will be some sort of automotive nirvana that will enjoy widespread acceptance across the nation. And they're kidding themselves, too, because this country isn't ready for the reality of that Euro model - not even close. Not even in ten years, either.

    American consumer-motorists. If the new fuel economy mandates survive to fruition, American consumers will wake up to a new world. A world where freedom of choice - when it comes to the kinds of vehicles they drive - no longer exists. Larger SUVs, trucks and vans for larger families who need them will become prohibitively expensive. High-performance sports cars will become even more expensive than they already are. And bread-and-butter everyday sedans could cost as much as $5,000.00 more in order to meet the new fuel economy standards. In the simplest of terms, what it means to the U.S. car buying consumer is fewer choices for a lot more money.
     
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    According to the Senate it does. :uh:
     
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    the U.S. auto industry as a collective needs to shut the FUCK up and start building better cars. period.
     
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    Who wants cars to be more efficient and be better for consumers? Who wants to start helping the evironment?

    COMMIES, that's who.
     
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    no shit
     
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    DefBringer Ronnie, if I don't do this, *that's* when I'm goin

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    There is a lot of truth to what he says, but I don't think it's fair to say that every senator who wants to impose higher mileage standards is some limp-wristed, big-business-hating liberal.

    The key to making cars more fuel efficient is not by slapping some expensive or complicated hydro/electric powerplant into existing cars.

    The key to making cars more fuel efficient is to start focusing on making them LIGHTER. Lead by example....use clever design to assure a mother of 4 that she does not need a 4500lb SUV to transport her family around.
     
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    DefBringer Ronnie, if I don't do this, *that's* when I'm goin

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    I am so fucking sick of hearing about some bullshit hybrid car that gets 40mpg when Honda Civics have been getting 40mpg for two decades.
     
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    exactly... we don't need hybrid space ship pieces of shit... we need normal cars with good gas mileage that people actually want to buy.

    something that GM, Ford and Chrysler have never produced in my opinion.
     
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    No... commies want to force what they think is right on a society of individuals....



    This is not adding a bit more efficiency to the lineup... this is wholesale change in what kind of cars will be available.
     
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    An import fanboy... :rofl:

    Toyota opposed these regulations with every bit of the same intensity as the big three...
     
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    It has NEVER been about need in a free society

    Say good bye to cars like the Dodge Challenger, Toyota Supra, 350Z, GTO, etc etc.... Mass produced powerful cars are gone when you need averages as high as these standards are.....


    but I guess nobody needs them right???
     
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    They probably don't want actual competition from the big stupid 3
     
  19. lighter and slower.
     
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    Toyota is NOT the "greenest" manufacturer btw :rolleyes:

    at least not to anybody who understands the industry and not auto rags and media hype
     
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    yay, more government regulations ftw!
     
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    I was going to post this yesterday because not only is Lutz absolutely right, but so is the entire auto industry. Everyone opposes it because it's akin to dropping a nuke on a the entire industry.

    If you want to see how ridiculous the proposal is just look at www.fueleconomy.gov

    Next to nothing sold even approaches an average of 35mpg.

    How in the world is that going to be attained? It's impossible.
     
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    Some charity BS for knocked-up teen
    I'm sure gas companies won't pass on the new fees to the consumer.

    Nope, no chance of that happening.
     
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    I can't stand how people see this as only effecting the "big stupid 3" and lowering the profits of "big evil corporations"

    wakeup guys..... you are not going to pay far more for vehicles that you don't want.... because a bunch of democrats with a bit of power decide that is what you need....
     
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    Toyota and foreign automakers are deadset against this as well. It will little ruin the entire business and consumer market.

    I really can't believe how utterly stupid our government is becoming.
     

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