Got a problem with benchpress..

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  1. TwinkleButt

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    It seems when I try to do it on a flat bench press i have real trouble, i have really long arms so sometimes i think that might be it. But whenever I do it on a decline bench press i dont have any problems and usually can bench alot, it seems as if a reason for this is in a decline you dont have to bring the weights up as high as a flat bench.

    my questions are..


    1. do you guys know why im having trouble with a flat bench?

    2. and does a decline bench work as well as a flat bench (i dont think it does, but want your opinons)

    thanks guys! :wiggle:
     
  2. uf20wop

    uf20wop OT Supporter

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    decline = useless

    try using dumbbells? :dunno:
     
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    dumbbells make my weenie erect.
     
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    so are you saying you can't get the weight started off your chest when flat benching?
     
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    cucumber resident fat guy

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    I am 6'4 and have a 6'9" wingspan. (81 inches) I used to think my problem with benching was my long arms, but nope, I was just weak. I'm now able to bench 230 and it's going up every time I max.
     
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    Ceaze https://hearthis.at/DoYouEvenUplift Moderator

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    you just need to get stronger
     
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    negative
     
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    but OT f&n says it is :o
     
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    shastaisforwinners OT Supporter

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    I have yet to see a compound pressing movement that is useless.
     
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    dont be ignorant
     
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    :hs:

    that's all i've ever read on OT (and i still do them from time to time :o)

    i realize any exercise isn't completely useless
     
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    You didn't state what your trouble is, just that you are having trouble.
     
  13. TwinkleButt

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    Well the issue was on how much harder of a time i was having lifting on the flat bench as compared to the decline where I was having a very easy time. It was just weird, and i can't explain it.
     
  14. Doronin

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    I have never gotten anything positive from decline bench so I am in the camp that believes it isn't worth the effort. Flat benching utilizes the muscles in the lower pectoral just as eficiently as decline bench does, and manages to use much more of the whole muscle in the motion.

    As far as tips to make your numbers go up, try widening your grip somewhat to compensate for the length of your arms. Don't go so wide your deltoids get stretched to hell, but enough to slightly shorten the distance of the motion and give you more leverage.


    EDIT- Decline is way way way easier because the angle you push it at gives you so much damn leverage that you can mule up way more weight. It doesn't necessarily mean it is going to efficiently add anything significant to your chest.
     
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    decline works your tris more, and your bench press is more of your tris then it is your chest.
     
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    Right... so why not maximize the working capability of the chest and just stick to flat and incline? Doing declines doesn't effectively work the right things.
     
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    there is no substitute for flat bench, or DB bench, or any of the other wonmdefrfull presing/accesory movements, they should all be used if possible, and when nessisary, and called for. sayong decline is worthless or you have never got anythiogn from it is wrong, the exercise is good for developing tricep strength, benching is greatlydependant on triceps, so ity is a great accespry exercise.
     
  18. TwinkleButt

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    sounds good guys, today i put my arms a little more far apart and it seemed to help out alot.

    :)
     
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    decline puts more tension on your pecs as well, durrrrrr
     
  20. Doronin

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    See? Yeah that does help a lot. Slightly decreases how far you actually have to push it and will lessen the load on the triceps themselves. There are many other things you can do but you will figure them out over time.

    Also, I have read too many books and actually done decline bench too much (right as I first started out) to believe it is worthwhile at all. If a decline bench was worth the effort it takes to throw the godamn thing in the dumpster then I believe more top professionals in bodybuilding and powerlifting would be all over it. But that's just me.
     
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    isnt the whole point to lift more weight? you also say shorten the distance for greater leverage then say decline is no good because of the leverage. ????

    flat uses more delts then decline.
     
  22. Doronin

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    Yeah but when you push straight down (decline) you don't hardly incorporate your pectoral muscles. You increase the leverage on the FLAT angle to incorporate more of the pectoral and to increase the volume of weight.

    What next? Barbell rows are a bicep and neck routine? Christ. Apparently from the arguments I have gotten bench press works everything but the chest and weight ! = HUGE. And no, the point of bodybuilding isn't trying to push more weight all the time but that would require an explanation so I am leaving it at that.
     
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    soooooo wrong
     
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    IEMG max motor-unit activation

    Exercise/% EMG Muscle Stimulation

    Pectoralis major:
    Decline dumbbell bench press - 93
    Decline bench press (Olympic bar) - 89
    Push-ups between benches - 88
    Flat dumbbell bench press - 87
    Flat bench press (Olympic bar) - 85
    Flat dumbbell flys - 84
     
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    :rofl: This forum and OT in general is 90% idiots
     
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