WEB goodbye table-based layouts

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  1. themolsen

    themolsen New Member

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    I've been using tables to layout sites for a while and I've finally hit a barrier where the kind of sites I'm trying to make are too complicated for tables.

    I picked up a CSS book at the bookstore today and I'm going to try out some stuff tonight :wiggle:
     
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    I'm in the same boat man... my standards are not up to date. I bought CSS: The Definitive Guide published by O'Reilly, seems pretty good.
     
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    Good luck. Might seem a little bit difficult at first because you're used to the "old way", but once you break the barrier, you'll realize how easy it really is.
     
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    yea there were lots of good ones a the bookstore. i ended up with the one with the most info and lowest cost lol

    "CSS, DHTML & AJAX" by Teague
     
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    thanks. actually, I think I have a pretty good handle on it so far. it's going pretty well
     
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    i would suggest developing with a standards compliant browser (chrome, FF, safari). because if you're doing CSS in IE7, you are going to hate your life
     
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    yea, i'm definitely using FF, but checking with IE along the way
     
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    :o http://www.oswd.org/ ... typo's ftl :hsd:
    It's good advice though, a great way to learn is by looking at the source code of sites to get an idea of how it all works
     
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    well i've been making edits and adjustments to joomla sites and other template-based sites that use CSS for a little while now.

    so i'm somewhat familiar with how various declarations and tags work. the real learning experience for me is starting from scratch. but as of now, it looks like I got that out of the way!
     
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    FWIW IMO, that book is junk.


    unless you have NEVER used CSS before that is...
     
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    o2 Witty Title Here OT Supporter

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    Wait, is this thread from 2004?
     
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    You're four years behind.
     
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    o2 Witty Title Here OT Supporter

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    yea, I feel that way now, too. It had some useful tips, but nothing I couldn't have just gotten from a Google search. ah well, I'm on my way now anyways
     
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    Once you get a basic grasp on CSS, learn about the grid before you start making sites with it. It makes designing and production much more efficient and simpler; more particularly when it comes time to edit your site or add features.

    http://www.blueprintcss.org/
     
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    do yourself a favor and use css in a template... dont do it within the actual html file. I started doing it in the file, and i regret that decision every day at work...
     
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    The whole purpose of CSS was to utilize it from an external file.
     
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    .

    Also agree with what someone said earlier about browser inconsistencies. The differences between IE7 and FF messed me up a bit.
     
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    there are differences because IE7 is not a standards compliant browser
     
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    symptic I run companies

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    Refer to said Blueprint suggestion. Problem mostly solved.
     
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    The problem is solved when you have an understanding of browser inconsistencies. Using a Framework solves the understanding for you.
     
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    Just started designing a table less layout. very cool once you get the hang of it. I had a few problems with background images not displaying in some div's but all in all very cool way to make websites...
     
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    post your code so we can help you
     
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    symptic I run companies

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    This is true, but if you look through the framework, you can learn.
     
  25. catpiss

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    Since most people use IE 6+7, IE compliance is of most importance for any serious website.

    I still prefer a combination of tables + CSS depending on my needs.
     

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