A&P good idea/bad idea: Starting into Photography with a fixed lens

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  1. fixthe fernback

    fixthe fernback New Member

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    I enjoy taking pics with my P&S and want to get a DSLR. Right now the front runner for me is the Rebel XSi (seems to be the best camera for a beginner that I can buy new at my price point). I really like the sharpness (from comparison pics) on the Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 and the price is great, but I'm worried that will get me stuck to taking pictures of cars, flowers, and trees. If I am hiking I want to be able to take pictures of the landscape, not just what I see on the path. What route should I go? Compromise a lot of sharpness for the versatility of a 18-55mm lens? Or should I stick with a fixed lens and later find another fixed with a shorter focal length?

    Keep in mind this is for an absolute beginner.

    Anyone here have any shots of mountains or buildings at ~50mm?

    I guess I could get a used 18-55mm lens from a kit and just use that for landscapes...
     
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    turbodude Just a photographer OT Supporter

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    great idea. You learn soo many fundamentals about composition when you have a fixed lens. So many of us who learned on film were forced to do this. It helps!


    oops i just read you want to shoot landscapes... invest in a great tripod
     
  3. Cesium

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    If you want to start with a prime only, get something in the 28-35mm range. The 50 will probably feel too long in most cases.
     
  4. Wobistdu

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    :werd:

    50 as your only lens is horrible
     
  5. Idyfohu

    Idyfohu New Member

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    And if you listen to l33t, be glad you have a Canon because Nikon's 50mm 1.8 sucks cawk. :noes:
     
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    Perkwunos Dog Bones OT Supporter

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    I learned on a 50 f1.8
     
  7. Wobistdu

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    quid can't stand canon's 50 though. if it like nikon with the shitty screw drive?
     
  8. Cesium

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    The canon one isn't that much better. Sure, it's sharp at f/4, but by then, what's the point? Noisy and inaccurate AF sucks too.

    But if all you have is 100 bucks, sure, I guess.
     
  9. Wobistdu

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    yeah the nikon's loved to hunt and miss focus all the time.

    i notice the people that get offended when you bash these lenses don't own many lenses and it's usually their only prime
     
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    First lens was a 50mm 1.4. I think it helped me a lot.
     
  12. High_Boost

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    everyone will have their own opinion on this - some people love primes, some hate them.

    I would not have the 50 as my only lens - it is horribly restrictive, and yet doesnt have any range either. It is useless to me, except for portraits (I have an xsi as well). If that is your only lens, you will probably hate photography.

    the kit doesnt cost much more, I would definately buy that at a minimum..

    imo, if you can scrape together just a couple more dollars, you would be way further ahead to buy just the body, then buy a Tamron 17-50 2.8 used for $300 instead of the 18-55 kit zoom + 50 1.8 for $200..
    it is a great "only lens", it rarely leaves my camera and I have 4 other lenses
     
  13. Wobistdu

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    yeah my first 2 lenses for the d90 were the kit 18-105 and 50 1.8. they are both gone now, and i love the tamron 17-50
     
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    if you just want to start with a prime, go for the canon 35 2.0 on the xsi
     
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    I dont get how you "could get a used 18-55mm lens from a kit"

    if you never had any lens, then would you not have to "get used to a prime"

    Personally, I think you should get the kit for right now. Learn your camera, learn your basics, and the kit will allow you to enjoy photography for simply the picture taking aspect of it. The 50 is a cheap lens and damn near every Canon user, will own one at some point so you WILL have the lens eventually. But to have no experience knowledge or anything going into this - if you have a camera and composition and all the rest thrown at you at once - it can be overwhelming. It is easy to put down the camera and lose all interest at that point.

    And coming from a P&S, unless it is a real high end one, the kit will take great pictures.

    Here is a video of what the kit lens, some lights, and some photoshop skills can yield
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlbSYQnRJPE

    sorry, I cant embed
     
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  17. Wobistdu

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    i think he might have misunderstood and took it as "getting used to" instead of "buying it used"
     
  18. CornUponCob

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    I think a cheap wide angle zoom (like the kit lens) and the 50 1.8 would be the way to go. You'll learn how to shoot at 50mm with just the 50 1.8, but there's a lot to be learned about composition from the wider focal lengths as well.
     
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    :rofl::rofl::rofl:

    actually l33t is right - I misread it.:mamoru:

    what is this ebay you speak of?
     
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