GUN God we fucked up! V. Ron Paul

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  1. jayhat

    jayhat You have the personality of a dead moth.

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    *Here are a collection of Ron Paul Quotes (Some of them WMD related). 99% of what he stands for and says makes sense to me and should make sense to everyone. Our nation is so brainwashed by democrats and republicans we have really lost sight..... No one thinks for them selves. No one questions why things are the way they are. Everyone votes for "the lesser of two evils".

    Its too late now for this election but, watch this vid and read these qutoes. Maybe 20 years down the line when more people think like this, a candidate that is not a demo or repub will have a legitamate chance at the Presidency.
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    "Values in a free society are accepted voluntarily, not through coercion, and certainly not by law... every time we write a law to control private behavior, we imply that somebody has to arrive with a gun, because if you desecrate the flag, you have to punish that person. So how do you do that? You send an agent of the government, perhaps an employee of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Flags, to arrest him. This is in many ways patriotism with a gun – if your actions do not fit the official definition of a "patriot," we will send somebody to arrest you."



    "America was founded by men who understood that the threat of domestic tyranny is as great as any threat from abroad. If we want to be worthy of their legacy, we must resist the rush toward ever-increasing state control of our society. Otherwise, our own government will become a greater threat to our freedoms than any foreign terrorist."


    "Yeah, I think we're moving in that direction, because there's not much we can do without permission. The absence of a police state is that people are free, and if you don't commit crimes you can do what you want. But today, you can't open up a business, you can't develop land, you can't go to the bank, you can't go to the doctor without the government knowing what you're doing. They talk about medical privacy, that's gone. Financial privacy, that's gone. The right to own property, that's essentially gone. So you have to get permission from the government for almost everything. And if that is the definition of a police state, that you can't do anything unless the government gives you permission, we're well on our way. This is something that people eventually, I hope, will get sick and tired of, and say enough is enough."


    "Freedom is not defined by safety. Freedom is defined by the ability of citizens to live without government interference. Government cannot create a world without risks, nor would we really wish to live in such a fictional place. Only a totalitarian society would even claim absolute safety as a worthy ideal, because it would require total state control over its citizens’ lives. Liberty has meaning only if we still believe in it when terrible things happen and a false government security blanket beckons."



    "The original American patriots were those individuals brave enough to resist with force the oppressive power of King George. I accept the definition of patriotism as that effort to resist oppressive state power. The true patriot is motivated by a sense of responsibility, and out of self interest -- for himself, his family, and the future of his country -- to resist government abuse of power. He rejects the notion that patriotism means obedience to the state."


    "I don't even like big government in Washington, let alone having super government over our federal government, such as a North American Union, or the United Nations, or any of these organizations. It just means more government and more attack on individual sovereignty, which is the real issue."


    "A nation without secure borders is no nation at all. It makes no sense to fight terrorists abroad when our own front door is left unlocked."

    "Prohibiting guns on campus made the Virginia Tech students less safe, not more."


    [FONT=&quot]"I don't want us to worry about the borders between North and South Korea and between Iraq and Syria, I want to worry about our own border.." [/FONT]




    "I am absolutely opposed to a national ID card. This is a total contradiction of what a free society is all about. The purpose of government is to protect the secrecy and the privacy of all individuals, not the secrecy of government. We don't need a national ID card."



    "The gun control debate generally ignores the historical and philosophical underpinnings of the Second Amendment. The Second Amendment is not about hunting deer or keeping a pistol in your nightstand. It is not about protecting oneself against common criminals. It is about preventing tyranny. The Founders knew that unarmed citizens would never be able to overthrow a tyrannical government as they did. They envisioned government as a servant, not a master, of the American people. The muskets they used against the British Army were the assault rifles of that time. It is practical, rather than alarmist, to understand that unarmed citizens cannot be secure in their freedoms."


    "People should not be punished for working hard, saving, and building wealth. Our society should respect the most basic property right, namely the right to dispose of one's property as one wishes. The American dream is based on making a better life for one's children, despite the empty rhetoric of the class-warfare politicians in Washington. Building wealth is not sinister, it is admirable. Our tax rules should encourage the decidedly American virtue of saving for the future."




    [FONT=&quot]"Freedom and prosperity cannot coexist with socialism and endless war. Yet socialism and endless war are exactly what most in Washington are promoting."[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]"I am just absolutely convinced that the best formula for giving us peace and preserving the American way of life is freedom, limited government, and minding our own business overseas."

    [/FONT] [FONT=&quot]"Our country's founders cherished liberty, not democracy.[/FONT]"


    [FONT=&quot]"The moral and constitutional obligations of our representatives in Washington are to protect our liberty, not coddle the world, precipitating no-win wars, while bringing bankruptcy and economic turmoil to our people.[/FONT]"


    "We have depended on government for so much for so long that we as people have become less vigilant of our liberties. As long as the government provides largesse for the majority, the special interest lobbyists will succeed in continuing the redistribution of welfare programs that occupies most of Congress's legislative time."
     
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    I voted Ron Paul :hs:
     
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    :werd: I love it when people say republicans have always been war mongers
     
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    just emailed that video to my mom telling her i expect her to watch it :coold:
     
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    jayhat You have the personality of a dead moth.

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    Fuck I loves this quote;

    "The gun control debate generally ignores the historical and philosophical underpinnings of the Second Amendment. The Second Amendment is not about hunting deer or keeping a pistol in your nightstand. It is not about protecting oneself against common criminals. It is about preventing tyranny. The Founders knew that unarmed citizens would never be able to overthrow a tyrannical government as they did. They envisioned government as a servant, not a master, of the American people. The muskets they used against the British Army were the assault rifles of that time. It is practical, rather than alarmist, to understand that unarmed citizens cannot be secure in their freedoms.
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    He just makes too much sense.
     
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    i'm really sad he didn't win now :hs:
     
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    WOW! What an exciting time for us. Even if he lost the election anyone who was a part of that still won. I'm floored watching that again. Brings back wonderful memories. Until I heard Dr. Paul speak I never would have thought I would be so inspired by a presidential campaign. Just makes you think what could have been.I donated to a cause I wholeheartedly believed in, and wow what a feeling. Who knows, maybe this election is setting the stage for another Patriot to take his shot at the White House in 4 years. We can only hope...
     
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    xpinchx hes got a nice cock, on the thin side but its stil

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    Don't blame me, I wrote him in.
     
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    xpinchx hes got a nice cock, on the thin side but its stil

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    I feel the same way. Before this election I've pretty much just voted the way my parents vote. After hearing him speak and watching his old videos, he just makes too much sense. He was the president we really needed this election and it's a damn shame we couldn't get him. :sad2:
     
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    what is stopping him running next time? age?
     
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    jayhat You have the personality of a dead moth.

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    Yeah dude same with me. I never really gave a shit about politics before this election. I credit Ron Paul with actually making me care. I now have very strong opinions about politics and the way this country is run. I try to pass this point of view onto everyone I talk to about politics (no I dont preach to people, I hate that). People should know its not just about one extreme or the other (demo or repub).

    Hopefully when my generation (I'm in my early 20's) has someone running for president they will look back at someone like Ron Paul and take note.

    Ron Paul truly inspired me. :hs:
     
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    I was in the same boat. My parents have always been republican. I remember one night they had a bunch of friends over during the primaries and they couldnt believe all the knowledge I was dropping about Ron Paul. Deep down they agreed with his ideals but just couldn't force themselves to look at him as a viable candidate :(. It's just a total bummer because almost anyone who was willing to give him a chance seemed to completely love his stances but too many people were against real "hope" and "change"
     
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    i think the issue is ron paul is not very 'saleable'

    you have to sell him to the rednecks and 'naggers'... paul is unappealing to both

    ron paul doesn't appeal to many people in the way that obama does

    it's a shame
     
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    jayhat You have the personality of a dead moth.

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    It is :hs:
     
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    i wrote in chuck baldwin, who RP endorsed
     
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    seriously. RP tried his best, though. there are many people like him, let's hope they fool one of the parties and is able to get in a nomination one year... hopefully, it's not too late
     
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    any candidate for whom "LOVE" spelled backwards inside his slogan, is auto-fail for me.
     
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    Yeah, he's got honesty and logic on his side, along with a bunch of good ideals. Unfortunately logic has no place in national politics... :(
     
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    i won't get on well in this subforum, im very anti guns. Banning them in australia has been great :hs:

    but, RP is brilliant in every other way. I have no problem with obama though, he is going to make a big difference
     
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    i used this quote the end a paper about gun control that decided whether or not i graduated high school
     

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