God, this is going to sound like a retarded question...

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  1. Satellite

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    When I work out, I can hit low reps and crush out heavy weight. I love it. Makes me feel strong etc.

    But then when I hit a lower weight say 12 reps and really focus on the pump it feels like my muscles are tearing out of my skin.

    Now I love both feelings. I also know what Arnold would say about this.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDIJQmL4Lzs

    But which is more conducive for muscle building? Sure I want strength. But I would prefer at this point in my life to look better.
     
  2. DJ Cripsen

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    I would say heavy weight, lower rep to stimulate growth.
     
  3. Uglybob69

    Uglybob69 I miss beer.

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    I read a study where they did 3-5 reps to failure vs something like 6-12 reps to failure for 4 sets.

    Results were basically the same as far as muscle hypertrophy went iirc.

    In short: lift weights with high intensity and get muscles

    pur should give his 2c in here and any other bodybuilders we have here
     
  4. jdm-cd5

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    i like to go with 4-6 reps of a heavy weight and then move down in 5-10 pd increments after each set to keep my reps between 4-6. i look pretty big for my weight and i have natural strenght. go with 6-12 reps if you just want the "ripped" look with your veins poppin out.
     
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    I spent 2 years doing a 5x5 and while I gained some weight, the size just wasn't coming like I wanted it to.
    Spent the last year on Purs and muscles are looking better.

    IIRC NUDES said he recently increased the volume and said he "looked better naked"
     
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    I think improving your diet would make more of a difference, getting enough protein, sleeping more, etc. than if you changed routines with a poor diet.
     
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    low reps for strength gains
    higher reps for hypertrophy
     
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    higher reps for endurance too right?
     
  9. Uglybob69

    Uglybob69 I miss beer.

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    15+
     
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    thanks
     
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    I don't see the point in "endurance" resistance training. When was the last time you needed to do 50 reps with 20lbs? What sort of carryover would it have that's applicable to... anything?
     
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    fuck ... been doing sets of 14
     
  13. Uglybob69

    Uglybob69 I miss beer.

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    That is general as i'd say most of the work done beyond 15 reps starts coming from aerobically formed atp. If you need to have endurance for some sport, train the sport. Otherwise you'll just be good at doing a shitload of curls and that isn't really important for... well anything.
     
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    I've been doing 2 sets of 50 reps with 50lbs for squats. Don't know why, but squats just seem easier than everything else. I do alot of biking, so maybe that's why. Everything else is like 2 sets of 25-30 with a minimum of 40lbs (my bar with no weights = 40lbs). I'm getting awesome definition.

    When I first started this, I noticed a little bit of size gain on my biceps and pecs, but no more size gains after 6 months. I can't tell with the lower body, because have alot of fat there and my legs and butt are getting smaller. I'm thinking the muscles there are just leaning out or something :dunno:
     
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    super high reps. think of marathon runners as the ultimate endurance atheletes.

    or triatheletes(sp). each footstep is one rep when you're running a marathon. if you want to do serious endurance training, you might as well use almost no weight and do 11ty reps.

    not very practical, really.
     
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    holy crap. stop with the 50 reps and 20 reps and limit yourself to, MAX, 15 reps.

    i'd even say no more than 12.

    raise the weight, lower the rep, add more sets.

    at 2 sets of 50 reps, basically the first 75-80 reps are warmups. the last 20 reps MIGHT be working your body if you're really straining to finish but i doubt it.
     
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    i think it does not matter really what rep range you use as long as you are getting stronger and using more weight over time and eating enough.
     
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    this is what I'm experiencing. I am actually able to up the weight at a steady pace every month or so. Personally, I feel that that's a good pace. It shows that I'm improving.

    I actually start to feel pretty strained after 30 reps and I just keep going, I don't know how sometimes :mamoru: I think my adrenaline is kicking in to help me keep doing the rest of the lifting or something.

    So I'm getting conflicted response from you KingGargantuan. Do I do 11ty billion reps or cut down on the reps and add weight?

    If I'm noticing good progress with strength and endurance, should I really change the routine?
     
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    Strength gains generally cause hypertrophy and hypertrophy generally causes strength gains. :noes:
     
  20. NUDES

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    People think too much.

    Show me someone who can bench 500 raw, overhead press 315 for reps, squat 700 raw, and deadlift 750 raw.. and you will have a dude with a ton of muscle.

    Just lift heavy and then do some volume stuff for other movements. Like bench heavy, then do higher rep accessory stuff like fly's or whatever you want.

    Or hit a hard set of 8-10 for bench, making sure its hard as fuck. It really doesn't that much.
     
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    low rep heavy weight for a few weeks

    high rep lower weight for a few weeks

    IBimwrong
     
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    lactic acid training, i thought that's what that was all about.
     
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    I really don't appreciate you using the word "retarded" in that context. Please refrain from doing so in my presence.
     
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    i think you'll see better progress if you cut down on the reps and increase the sets and weight.
     
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