GM backs off as Holden commits to redesign the Monaro

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    By BRUCE NEWTON
    The Age
    Wednesday June 1 2005

    The iconic Monaro is a long-term must in the Holden line-up despite a decision by parent General Motors to halt co-development of a series of new models.

    That was the defiant message from Holden managing director Denny Mooney last week as he sought to play down the impact of cash-strapped GM's halt of the "Zeta" program.

    "We need a future Monaro," Mr Mooney said. "It's such an image car for us and our brand that we are going to do one. It is as definite as anything can be. I don't control everything that goes on in our organisation . . . but I have to tell you that from a Holden product plan standpoint there will be a future Monaro."

    Nevertheless, Mr Mooney admitted a business plan for another generation of the high-profile coupe had yet to be signed off.


    Monaro looked to be an immediate beneficiary of the co-operation driven by GM car tsar Bob Lutz, which called for a series of North American models to be developed over the next few years underpinned by the Holden-developed Zeta architecture (core structure).

    Zeta will debut on the VE Commodore sedan early next year and gradually be introduced as other models are updated.

    The Monaro would have been built in North America, primarily as a Pontiac GTO, with some sent south to sell as Monaros. Currently Holden builds the Monaro in its Adelaide plant and exports a 6.0-litre version to the US as the GTO.

    GM's North American financial woes have seen plans for a new generation of rear-drive cars waylaid by the need to get high-profit margin off-roaders to market quickly.
     
  2. rhlx

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    GM's plan to make money = making cheap pushrod people movers :coolugh:
     
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    "Americans don't want RWD, they want more huge trucks!"
     
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    GM = clusterfuck management
     
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    I am so completely tired of their bullshit. They actually start finally making some cars with some level of excitement and buzz about them (namely the new Caddys), and so they decide now it's time to derail things. That company is run by fucking imbeciles.
     
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    GM reliable? :ugh:
     
  10. Skoles

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    Man, I wish the Monaro front end was the GTO's front end for here.

    I assume they can just be swapped out right? Have any GTO clubs/owners done this?
     
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    Yes, and yes. It's just a cover and they slide on and off.
     
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    i saw a blue one in houston the other day with the cover swap :noes: :noes: :noes: :noes:


    was fucking beautiful


    so much better than the regular front end :hs:
     
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    I'm doing one in red. :cool:
     
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    LOL those Monaro fronts are like 10001 times better looking. What was GM thinking? :ugh:
     
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    there is a red one that stop by work a few times a week... it still looks alright, but the cover would be much better :o

    :bigthumb:


    i want one in black :hs:
     
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    At least Holden has some balls.
     
  17. TriShield

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    And money.

    I'd rather have ten V6 and V8 Holdens running around in the US instead of the next Silverado and Tahoe getting to the market a few months earlier. :mad:
     
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    Killing off their fun car too? The F-body wasn't enough I guess, gotta screw things up down under too.
    B-b-but we're sure all the public wants an SSR, H2 and a Solstice, those will save us from the Honda's!
     
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    the solstice will do well...
    the SSR now that its got the LS2, will do better... but its still expensive :o


    :dunno:
     
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    The Solstice will do well if it's priced in Miata range, it is a GREAT looking car. I don't know what they're going for.
    The SSR will be nice to have with the engine, but there's no way it'll sell like f-body cars did.
     
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    Everyone talks about GM's specialized products, like the SSR, Solstice, C6, etc..., but GM has NO hit products in the mainstream line that competes with midsize sedans like the Accord, Camry, Passat, Altima, etc... Their compacts are at par at best. These are the high volume sellers.
     
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    that car is boring
    and showing it in yellow doesn't make it any more attractive
     
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    I agree. They gave up on competing with Accord/Camry and concentrated on the trucks & suv's to support them. They abandoned the average car buyers, who buy the most cars. The truck/suv craze won't last forever, and now the "imports" (probably more domestic than the "domestics" now) are putting up some REAL competition in just a short amount of time in the truck/suv market. There's trouble brewing.

    Why do they go to the expense of developing, tooling and producing the SSR, H2/3 and Solstice when they should be concentrating on bread and butter cars that are well built AND look good for the averag buyers?
     
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    We were going to get a Chrysler challenging RWD Impala (rebadged 2007 Commodore) out of the Zeta deal... :wtc:
     
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    fucking :werd:

    and now the full on GMT-900 hybrids of those have delayed anyhow
     

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