Okay. So my gf whom I've been dating for the last 8 months or so wasn't very experienced previous to our relationship. Neither was I, but I had done more than her. The most she had ever done with a guy was jerk him off and guys had used their hands. I had slept with 2 girls - one of which I was in a relationship for with about 6 or 7 months. None of these guys that she did that with turned out to be very nice, and they were all pretty much assholes just trying to get with her at parties... (I know them all...) Anyhow - my problem is this. For the most part our relationship is solid. We mesh very well and are very open with each other. She has never had an orgasm. Not from me. Not from any guys. Not from herself. She has been masturbating for the last 6 years or so but has yet to reach that spot. Now, one time a few months ago we were getting really into things, and were home alone. We had basically been making out for an hour or so and I was playing with her clit with my fingers. I have pretty fast fingers as I play the bass guitar, so she was enjoying herself... She had been heavily breathing and having little convulsions for about 45 minutes. After time, the convulsions got stronger... she started making noises, and finally after maybe an hour and a half of these waves she had one big convulsion and and just laid there - not responding to any touching. She whispered "I think I just came". Now, however, she thinks that that wasn't an orgasm because things that we've done since then have felt better. I think she just had an orgasm, but perhaps not a gigantic one... Perhaps she is orgasming, but she has been building up 'the big o' as the monstrous montage of moaning we all know and love from the adult film industry... I'm not saying that's not possible (as I know that it is from experience...) but, perhaps she just hasn't reached that point yet. Are the things I'm describing similar to what some girls will experience during orgasm? My last girlfriend did pretty much the same thing and she got off frequently. Now, whenever we fool around, I will go down on her or do other things for like an hour and she won't reach that point where she just feels relaxed after, and usually gets very frustrated. Obviously her not getting herself off is going to be a bit of a problem (I think) as she doesn't really know the thought/physical process she has to go through to get there. I'm not a female, but I would imagine there is a certain mindset and perhaps some rhythmic breathing that would help her along. If there are any females out there who can offer tips/suggestions for her to help get to where she is getting off too, then I would be very grateful. Any stories from girls or guys who have been in a situation like this would also help. I don't want her to just feel good, I want her to feel amazing... Also, any tips you guys have for me to help with this girl who isn't crazy sensitive or something... would also be appreciated. Sidenote: whenever we have been doing stuff recently, she tells me what feels good and what she likes and doesn't like so much... Thanks all... sorry for the long read... If you guys need cliffs, just ask.