this thread is for those of you who have extensive judo or for those who were able to figure out how to wrestle from neutral with the gi. Being a short and somewhat stocky guy, I feel that the following game plan suits me best: I fight for an inside collar grip with my left hand and either get a collar tie with my right or wrist/bicep. From there it depends on how they grip with their right hand. If they grip over my arm or across my neck (somewhat rare but happens), then I circle to the right and snap their head down hard with my right arm and either take the front headlock or go for a high crotch if they step to me. If they don't step then I do the head snap and go for an outside single on my right. Lately though, one of my training partners is so used to this he is able to disengage by ripping my grip off and pushing away over and over. I feel that if I get better at other series of gi takedowns from different grips then Id be much better off.